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Christians: Does this embarrass you?

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Christians: Do you ever feel like you have been left 'holding the bag' having to defend the Christian Testament? Forced to come up with all sorts of torturous explanations to defend the writings of your religion? Respond to the following:
EXAMPLE:

BELOW IS QUOTE FROM GALATIONS AND THE PASSAGE IN GENESIS THAT GALATIANS REFERS TO.

"But the promises were spoken to Abraham and his seed. He does not say, And unto seeds, as of many; but as of one; And thy seed, which is Christ."

"Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father. And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed"

THE CLAIM: Galatians claims that it says seed not seeds. Therefore it means one seed meaning Jesus.
THE PROBLEM: In Hebrew, the word seed is written the same in the singular and the plural: ZERA. The same way the word sheep in English is the same for singular and plural.

THE QUESTION FOR CHRISTIANS: How do you defend Galations that claims if it meant more than one seed it would have said it. As if the word ZERA would say ZERAS if it meant plural. NO IT WOULDNT.
How does it feel having to conjuring up some explanation to save the ignorant writer of Galatians who didn't know that the word seed in Hebrew is the same in singular and in the plural

CHRISTIANS: YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED. ARE YOU ANGRY WITH ME FOR SHOWING YOU OR ANGRY THAT THE WRITER OF GALATIANS USED DECEPTION TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE?

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Re: Christians: Does this embarrass you?

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Avoice wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:13 am No distinction can be made?

Why sure it can. The passage he speaks of; or should I say misinterpret is talking in the plural. Not singular as he claims
No person on earth can deny the numbers of offspring by Abraham, becoming a whole nation with land.

Gal 3 only confirms that the inheritance of numbers and land would be through one son born of Abraham, Isaac. Not through all his many household sons, including Ishmael. Muhammed is decieved in claiming the promises of the God of Abraham through Ishmael. Muhammed does not have the faith of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, nor speaks for the God if Israel.

The promises of innumerable seed and land by God to Abraham is through only one seed, Isaac. Not spread through his many 8 sons.

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Re: Christians: Does this embarrass you?

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Post by Athetotheist »

[Replying to RBD in post #229]
Then to deny Jesus as the Christ, because He was not a son of Solomon means, that He was either born of a virgin
You never have explained how a descendant of David not born through Solomon would have to be born to a virgin.

or Mary whored herself, or was raped without crying out, nor made it known by the law. In both cases she was complicit in her in own defilement.
Another possibility is that Mary simply conceived Jesus by Joseph after they got married. Mark, the earliest gospel, doesn't say otherwise (the virgin birth claims in the other gospels would, therefore, be embellishments).
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