The Bible is not the word of God

[DrProctopus]

A bunch of people who believed that God was talking to them wrote down what they believed God was saying.

The more relevant or successful scriptures were kept and eventually composed into the OT.

Something similar happend after Jesus did his thing, and the NT was produced.


Nowhere in this process do I see any reason to believe that every single word in the Bible is the word of God. Why should I believe someone when they claim to speak for God?

So, the point of debate is this:

Is there actually any decent reason to believe that the Bible is 100% the word of God?

[joer]

Cephus wrote:

but it's not rational to base your life on a book because it has some "good stuff".

Now your talking Brother. Live the truth not a book! Go for the good stuff.

Cephus wrote:

People need to take the good stuff out of the Bible, discard all the worthless crap, and get a life of their own.

Amen!

[Scrotum]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kkk
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAkkk.htm

Let's not go confusing him with the facts, he might have to learn something. What's next, he'll deny the Christian Identity movement?

"The Christian Identity movement is a movement of many extremely conservative Christian churches and religious organizations, extreme right wing political groups and survival groups. Some are independent; others are loosely interconnected. According to Professor Michael Barkun, one of the leading experts in the Christian Identity movement, "This virulent racist and anti-Semitic theology, which is practiced by over 50,000 people in the United States alone, is prevalent among many right wing extremist groups and has been called the 'glue' of the racist right."

The largest Christian Identity movement has traditionally been the Ku Klux Klan which was reorganized in 1915 by William Simmons, a Christian pastor."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm

Unfair Cephus, you got to it before me
But remember, these are just blatant lies out of the horses mouth. Shame on you Once, Shame on you twice.. Erh,, Shame.. er... ....

[Aristarkos]

Sure, the Bible has some good stuff in it and the Vedas have some good stuff in them and the Qu'ran has some good stuff in it and the Enuma Elish has some good stuff in it. Heck, most books have some good stuff in them, but it's not rational to base your life on a book because it has some "good stuff".
People need to take the good stuff out of the Bible, discard all the worthless crap, and get a life of their own.

Now your talking Brother. Live the truth not a book! Go for the good stuff.

That’s three people in agreement on something. Do we get special points for that?

[Scrotum]

OK, sorry for being a spiler here, but i would like to ask you guys then (Yeah, YOU, agreeing with eachother), Could you state some examples of WHAT IS GOOD WITH THE BIBLE that you cant find anywhere else?

That is, "Thu shall not kill" is not a Holy Bible(tm), but an absolute for a civilized society to work, so you have to do better then that. Please, Give me, les say 5 good Reasons to why the Holy Bible have good stuff in it (Things thay actually matter).

I will wait with interest..

[Aristarkos]

OK, sorry for being a spiler here, but i would like to ask you guys then (Yeah, YOU, agreeing with eachother), Could you state some examples of WHAT IS GOOD WITH THE BIBLE that you cant find anywhere else?

That is, "Thu shall not kill" is not a Holy Bible(tm), but an absolute for a civilized society to work, so you have to do better then that. Please, Give me, les say 5 good Reasons to why the Holy Bible have good stuff in it (Things thay actually matter).

I will wait with interest..

You could probably find a lot of these ideas somewhere else in some form, but here’s my quick answer of stuff that matters to me…
OT: the 10 commandments, some of the proverbs
NT: the overall story of Jesus, some of the parables, “Golden Rule”, love of enemies, forgiveness, 1 Corinthians 13, and God is Love

[McCulloch]

You could probably find a lot of these ideas somewhere else in some form, but here’s my quick answer of stuff that matters to me…
OT: the 10 commandments, some of the proverbs
NT: the overall story of Jesus, some of the parables, “Golden Rule”, love of enemies, forgiveness, 1 Corinthians 13, and God is Love

Now see if you can list some that are exclusively the property of the Bible.

[Scrotum]

You could probably find a lot of these ideas somewhere else in some form, but here’s my quick answer of stuff that matters to me…
OT: the 10 commandments, some of the proverbs
NT: the overall story of Jesus, some of the parables, “Golden Rule”, love of enemies, forgiveness, 1 Corinthians 13, and God is Love

Now see if you can list some that are exclusively the property of the Bible.

Bingo!!! My point....

That is in no way particular to the Holy Bible, so can you please refer to something that is unique? Else you could just folllow the Qu´ran. What makes your Bible so special? That was the point, if you cant fins any, OR, need to really look for it, is that not a hint that something is amiss in your belief?


P.S More then one or two things, as if thats all in a book with over 2000 pages, once again, perhaps you should re-think, Plato´s "The Republic" has so much good stuff and thats less then a thousand..

[Aristarkos]

You could probably find a lot of these ideas somewhere else in some form, but here’s my quick answer of stuff that matters to me…
OT: the 10 commandments, some of the proverbs
NT: the overall story of Jesus, some of the parables, “Golden Rule”, love of enemies, forgiveness, 1 Corinthians 13, and God is Love

Now see if you can list some that are exclusively the property of the Bible.

Bingo!!! My point....

That is in no way particular to the Holy Bible, so can you please refer to something that is unique? Else you could just folllow the Qu´ran. What makes your Bible so special? That was the point, if you cant fins any, OR, need to really look for it, is that not a hint that something is amiss in your belief?

P.S More then one or two things, as if thats all in a book with over 2000 pages, once again, perhaps you should re-think, Plato´s "The Republic" has so much good stuff and thats less then a thousand..

That is a good point and the number of pages is a good point too. (but I think you're preachin' to the choir ... as far who's been participating in this topic lately)

[Cephus]

OK, sorry for being a spiler here, but i would like to ask you guys then (Yeah, YOU, agreeing with eachother), Could you state some examples of WHAT IS GOOD WITH THE BIBLE that you cant find anywhere else?

Sorry, who ever said that the good stuff couldn't be found anywhere else? Nothing says it has to be exclusive to be good. Try again.

[Scrotum]

OK, sorry for being a spiler here, but i would like to ask you guys then (Yeah, YOU, agreeing with eachother), Could you state some examples of WHAT IS GOOD WITH THE BIBLE that you cant find anywhere else?

Sorry, who ever said that the good stuff couldn't be found anywhere else? Nothing says it has to be exclusive to be good. Try again.

OK, we can agree. But then you can also agree that The Holy Bible is nothring particular, so why follow it? That was the point, you would need to show what makes the Bible unique to make it worth any special position, else its just another book (which is the opposite of what people here have claimed, as they say its Very unique, and im still waiting to hear in what way).