Do you really care that I am going to hell?

[Cmass]

I don't think you really believe I will fry in Hell for being an Atheist. I don't think you really truly believe any of your non-believing family will either. I think deep down, you know it just isn't true.

If you do believe they will all fry and are not doing absolutely everything in your power to stop it, I would suggest that you are a very cold, dispassionate person. If you really believed your dearly beloved mother was going to burn in hell right next to Cmass and Charles Manson then you would stop at nothing to convince her to accept Jesus. You would not just gently encourage, you would be emotionally and perhaps even physically engaged on a daily and hourly basis. You most certainly would not be reading this silly OP right now. Not if you REALLY cared.

Think about it. If you saw your mother being beaten by someone on the street, would you stop to help save her? Would you put your own life at risk to keep her from drowning? Is there anything you would not do to help her? OK, what about eternal torture in hell? Doesn't this concern you? What about all the other people in your life who are going to hell? Doesn't this leave you feeling devastated? If I believed there was a hell and that so many people would be going - especially any of my friends or family - I would be in constant agony myself and would devote my life to stopping it. Or, I would be numb.

Does your knowledge that so many people will be in eternal torture bother you very much on a daily basis?

This OP came about after reading commentary by some of our more conservative Christian friends in here. Some seem to have no real problem with all us atheists burning in hell forever. Granted, there are probably some personal anger issues involved but still, I have always been uneasy with how casual many Christians are when it comes to discussing eternal damnation. Some get more upset over running over a kitty than the eternal torture of their best friend.

Nonetheless, I give most the benefit of the doubt: I don't think they are really that cold. I just don't think they really believe as much in the hell concept as they report.

[adlemi]

It's probably safe to assume at this point that you are not a typical christian Adlemi,

If what you mean by typical Christian is bible based Christian, yes I am not that type, I am a God based Christian.

and are rather a member of a very seclusive and small sect.

Nope, the Lord is our Good Pastor and Teacher and He is the One who has the Church. The Lord put us in to His Church.

Do you have an official name?

If the names like Baptist, Mormons, Pentecostal, etc. , no we don't have.

I wonder, how would you react if I told you another group similar to yours also claimed to hear God directly, but their version of God's revelations contradicted your own?

In what way do theirs contradict the revelation that we received from God? Can you send me some of their testimonies, claims, teachings and the likes?

Would you assume that they are not truly hearing God?

Why would I assume when I can go directly to God and ask this thing? What is the name of this group?

Would you think that perhaps they are schizophrenic if they are hearing voices that are clearly not the same as the one you hear?

This is where we differ that much, the Lord teaches us to dig from top to bottom first before we give our comment to anyone. We would be thinking nothing but ask for more things from them so that we may know what are they all about.

But there is nothing that I can do but to accept that she is already dead and, face a tree sometimes and whispher to my mother to go back to God, that way the Lord may possibly allows her to hear my plea to her

I must say - I have never heard of a christian cult that can drag people from the depths of a supposedly inescapable Hell by whispering to trees. You truly have unique views Adlemi.

WE are not a cult. Anyway, say thank you to the Lord God because it is from Him that I learned this thing about whisphering to a tree. But this is not 100 % sure that my mother can hear what I whispher to her, it depends on what the Lord will allow for her, it's better than doing nothing at all.

Did God reveal this method of ressurection to you directly?

Yes indeed and this one is really appalling and tragic. No one can escape this total consumation of fire and fervent heat. Whether we like it or not, all the dead from Adan to the last dead man prior to Jesus Christ second coming wil rise again in flesh and blood and be mixed with the living only for all to be totally cossumed by fire.

Please, do them same for me if I pass before you, I wasn't aware it was possible to escape Hell!

That is one of the big disadvantages of not calling on and coming to God - unaware of the things to come. REst assured that if you pass before me, I will do that for you.

[adlemi]

Whose opinion is “right” and why?

Only that of God himself, not ours, not yours, not even them. Why? God is always right. God is the Truth.

[McCulloch]

Whose opinion is “right” and why?

Only that of God himself, not ours, not yours, not even them. Why? God is always right. God is the Truth.

God, if there is a God, must always be right. The problem is that God does not speak directly to me. And so many of those who say or have said that they speak for God, say such silly things. How are you any different? Should I listen to you or should I wait for God to speak to me? If I should wait, could you put in a good word for me the next time you have a tête à tête with Him?

[adlemi]

[ quote="Zzyzx"]
Whose opinion is “right” and why?

Only that of God himself, not ours, not yours, not even them. Why? God is always right. God is the Truth.

God, if there is a God, must always be right. The problem is that God does not speak directly to me.[/quote]
Do you believe in God? If so, how do you believe God? What steps did you do to talk to God?

And so many of those who say or have said that they speak for God, say such silly things.

How do you know they are talking of silly things when you do not yet talk to God? Who tells you they talk silly things?

How are you any different?

I am nothing and you should not focus your attention to me, focus your attention to God himself.

Should I listen to you or should I wait for God to speak to me?

You should wait for God to speak to you should you decided to put yourself under God's care and custody, let HIm come in to your life and see for yourself how He is coming in to you in His own way. My job is just to tell you to go and come to God and you have nothing to listen to me more than that. God will not come in to your life should you do nothing but to wait like a lazy guy waiting for an apple to fall right on his mouth.

If I should wait, could you put in a good word for me the next time you have a tête à tête with Him?

It must come from your heart for all the things you want to reach out to God and don't forget that God is reading from within your heart hence you cannot mock God.

[Cmass]

I like my OP and would like to read more input from more Christians.
I think we have swerved off topic due to our fascination with Adlemi's personal conversations with God. (A good thread may be discussion of people who claim to hear God speaking to them)

Are there any other Christians that can provide their perspectives on my OP? Thus far, before we started to focus on Adlemi, she was actually the only one who directly answered the OP with her assertion that God erases our memory when we enter Heaven.
- Chris

[McCulloch]

Do you believe in God?

No. Must I believe before He will talk to me?

And so many of those who say or have said that they speak for God, say such silly things.

How do you know they are talking of silly things when you do not yet talk to God? Who tells you they talk silly things?

Some people who talk to God say that the stars are only 6,000 years old. Other people who talk to God say that someone with access to magic instruments was able to read the reformed hieroglyphic history of pre-columbian North America. Some people who talk to God say that God is not pleased with instrumental music in worship.

[adlemi]

Do you believe in God?

No. Must I believe before He will talk to me? .

Naturally, without faith, you cannot please God. How can God talk to you either?

And so many of those who say or have said that they speak for God, say such silly things.

How do you know they are talking of silly things when you do not yet talk to God? Who tells you they talk silly things?

[Some people who talk to God say that the stars are only 6,000 years old. Other people who talk to God say that someone with access to magic instruments was able to read the reformed hieroglyphic history of pre-columbian North America. Some people who talk to God say that God is not pleased with instrumental music in worship.

If those were the only things they were saying to you, then, indeed, they talked silly things. They didn't talk about God in that way.

[McCulloch]

Do you believe in God?

No. Must I believe before He will talk to me? .

Naturally, without faith, you cannot please God. How can God talk to you either?

A bit of a Catch-22 your God has me in. He won't talk to me unless I believe in Him and I won't believe in Him without evidence, such as Him talking to me.

[twobitsmedia]

Do you believe in God?

No. Must I believe before He will talk to me? .

Naturally, without faith, you cannot please God. How can God talk to you either?

.

Although I presume you have "higher authority" by "revelation," "faith and "belief" are not the same thing. There is no reason for anyone to operate in faith if they don ot believe.

[Biker]

I don't think you really believe I will fry in Hell for being an Atheist. I don't think you really truly believe any of your non-believing family will either. I think deep down, you know it just isn't true.

If you do believe they will all fry and are not doing absolutely everything in your power to stop it, I would suggest that you are a very cold, dispassionate person. If you really believed your dearly beloved mother was going to burn in hell right next to Cmass and Charles Manson then you would stop at nothing to convince her to accept Jesus. You would not just gently encourage, you would be emotionally and perhaps even physically engaged on a daily and hourly basis. You most certainly would not be reading this silly OP right now. Not if you REALLY cared.

Think about it. If you saw your mother being beaten by someone on the street, would you stop to help save her? Would you put your own life at risk to keep her from drowning? Is there anything you would not do to help her? OK, what about eternal torture in hell? Doesn't this concern you? What about all the other people in your life who are going to hell? Doesn't this leave you feeling devastated? If I believed there was a hell and that so many people would be going - especially any of my friends or family - I would be in constant agony myself and would devote my life to stopping it. Or, I would be numb.

Does your knowledge that so many people will be in eternal torture bother you very much on a daily basis?

This OP came about after reading commentary by some of our more conservative Christian friends in here. Some seem to have no real problem with all us atheists burning in hell forever. Granted, there are probably some personal anger issues involved but still, I have always been uneasy with how casual many Christians are when it comes to discussing eternal damnation. Some get more upset over running over a kitty than the eternal torture of their best friend.

Nonetheless, I give most the benefit of the doubt: I don't think they are really that cold. I just don't think they really believe as much in the hell concept as they report.

"And I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. And death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyones name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:11-15.
If anyone would like to (a) not be thrown into the lake of fire (b) get their name written in the book of life.
Ask me I would be more than happy to help you out!

Biker