I respectfully ask you as many individuals and as a collective for your views....
Im write also in good faith, and i write to all faiths present with a question......
One i'm sure you will be happy to try to answer, i pray however that you will accept my question as genuine and not as some form of hoax, i truly search for a diligent answer of truth from your understanding of the scriptures and events that are to come from your understandings.
The reason i ask this question, not just to yourselves but to many is simply because i am not firstly a known member of your organisation, although i am of true light and secondly, i cannot answer the one question i request and ask of you... and this question is simply....
What is / are your position (s) on the predicted arrival of christ in the near to moderate future?
I understand that the belief that the return or rebirth of our true light is one that many individual believers and many worldwide faiths including the Catholic church somewhat agree with however is this something that the general discussion boards can help me out with and would be happy to answer for me....
Looking forward to your replies...
I thank you all..
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Has anyone seen him
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If such a "visitation" happens in reality or if there is other real evidence that supernatural beings exist, I will consider the matter seriously. However, with only opinion and speculation evident, I do not accept the tales of any religion regarding any of the thousands of "gods" available.
Without evidence of existence, I see no reason to regard any of the proposed creatures as being anything more than products of human imagination (often "gods created in the image of man) and see no reason to worship any of them -- and wonder how / why worshipers chose their favorite god from among the thousands.
As a person who does not accept the existence of any supernatural beings, I have no expectation that any of the "gods" promoted by religionists will visit (or have visited) the Earth at any time.Someonewithaquestion wrote:What is / are your position (s) on the predicted arrival of christ in the near to moderate future?
If such a "visitation" happens in reality or if there is other real evidence that supernatural beings exist, I will consider the matter seriously. However, with only opinion and speculation evident, I do not accept the tales of any religion regarding any of the thousands of "gods" available.
Without evidence of existence, I see no reason to regard any of the proposed creatures as being anything more than products of human imagination (often "gods created in the image of man) and see no reason to worship any of them -- and wonder how / why worshipers chose their favorite god from among the thousands.
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No, he will not be returning in the future.
The bible is quite clear on the second coming of Jesus and that was it was supposed to happen in the life times of those who crucified and knew him. Jesus several times said things like "they would not taste death before his return" and that "this generation shall not pass away before he returns".
If you read through the letters of Paul you will see that he was adament Christ would return in his life time. He even saw the end times himself and made claims like "we have preached the gospel to every living creature under the sun", which is a sign that Christ is about to return. Whether he really had preached to every living creature under the sun (including insects and microbiotics), is irrelevent. He believed that he had accomplished this. So if Paul was wrong about this, it then stands to reason he was probably wrong about many things. And if Paul was wrong, then surely many other parts of the bible could be wrong too.
No doubt there will be many Christians who will attempt to make claims that the scriptures I've mentioned were not talking about the generations at the time of Jesus, but future generations. They have to do this, otherwise the hope of Christ's return in their future is a futile one. They will have to do a lot of retranslating the original texts, changing meanings of words and a mass of mental gymnastics to support their claims. However if we take the bible at face value, Christ either returned in the first century (as the preterest Christians believe) or the bible was wrong and he's not returning at all.
Many times in the bible it's said that Christ will return soon. No matter what way you look at it, 2000 years is a very very long time and the only way you can possibly justify it is to invoke the scripture that a 1000 years to us is like a day to God. But that just doesn't add up. The bible is supposedly God's word to man, so it makes no sense to have the bible written in "God's language". And please don't try to say it requires the Holy Spirit to be able to understand these things I have just mentioned. It doesn't. All it requires is God glasses and the presumption that Christ hasn't yet returned, but will. Once again it is a justification to overlook the very real fact that either Jesus really did return in the 1st century, or the bible is mistaken and he's not returning at all.
For the last 2000 years people have been warning us (like Paul did) of Christ's eminent return and they continue to do so.
But it's true, you say? He really is returning soon? Oh yeah, I can hear those pigs grunting out there on the runway now, getting ready for take off.
The bible is quite clear on the second coming of Jesus and that was it was supposed to happen in the life times of those who crucified and knew him. Jesus several times said things like "they would not taste death before his return" and that "this generation shall not pass away before he returns".
If you read through the letters of Paul you will see that he was adament Christ would return in his life time. He even saw the end times himself and made claims like "we have preached the gospel to every living creature under the sun", which is a sign that Christ is about to return. Whether he really had preached to every living creature under the sun (including insects and microbiotics), is irrelevent. He believed that he had accomplished this. So if Paul was wrong about this, it then stands to reason he was probably wrong about many things. And if Paul was wrong, then surely many other parts of the bible could be wrong too.
No doubt there will be many Christians who will attempt to make claims that the scriptures I've mentioned were not talking about the generations at the time of Jesus, but future generations. They have to do this, otherwise the hope of Christ's return in their future is a futile one. They will have to do a lot of retranslating the original texts, changing meanings of words and a mass of mental gymnastics to support their claims. However if we take the bible at face value, Christ either returned in the first century (as the preterest Christians believe) or the bible was wrong and he's not returning at all.
Many times in the bible it's said that Christ will return soon. No matter what way you look at it, 2000 years is a very very long time and the only way you can possibly justify it is to invoke the scripture that a 1000 years to us is like a day to God. But that just doesn't add up. The bible is supposedly God's word to man, so it makes no sense to have the bible written in "God's language". And please don't try to say it requires the Holy Spirit to be able to understand these things I have just mentioned. It doesn't. All it requires is God glasses and the presumption that Christ hasn't yet returned, but will. Once again it is a justification to overlook the very real fact that either Jesus really did return in the 1st century, or the bible is mistaken and he's not returning at all.
For the last 2000 years people have been warning us (like Paul did) of Christ's eminent return and they continue to do so.
But it's true, you say? He really is returning soon? Oh yeah, I can hear those pigs grunting out there on the runway now, getting ready for take off.

Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.
Prayer is like rubbing an old bottle and hoping that a genie will pop out and grant you three wishes.
There is much about this world that is mind boggling and impressive, but I see no need whatsoever to put it down to magical super powered beings.
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