Hello to everyone. I thought I'd start up a thread basically so everyone can post here about any troubles or issues they may be having, be this in relationships, study, daily dramas feeling a bit depressed, or just life in general. ANYTHING. Even if you may just like to vent, and have nowhere else to go.
Here we can help each other from many different perspectives on lifes problems. I think that getting different perspectives on the same issue will help you make the choice that you feel right with, and others can let you know of things you may not have thought about. We all have something to offer, so even if you don't feel what you advise is as good as it can be, it may let others think more about it.
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What about you methylatedghosts? your only a year older than me, so how's life treating you? BTW, I talk a lot! People always tell me that for a person with such a small mouth I sure do a lot of talking, LOL!!!!
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I'm actually rather good right now. A little stressed due to exams. My last one is in two weeks, so that should be ok. Other than that, I'm good. How about you?
How about all of you on this website?
How about all of you on this website?
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Happy Diwali everyone!
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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The truth will make you free.
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First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
Post #5
Okay, I'll bite. I am taking a university Biology course through correspondence. I HAVE to be done by Nov. 30. I'm nowhere near done! Plus, I don't understand it very well, especially the chemistry part.How about all of you on this website?
Simply put, I'm a basket case. Thanks for giving me an outlet. :nervious:




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I'm doing just fine! A noisy neighbour of mines just moved out so I'm very happy!methylatedghosts wrote:I'm actually rather good right now. A little stressed due to exams. My last one is in two weeks, so that should be ok. Other than that, I'm good. How about you?
How about all of you on this website?

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No worries.Lainey wrote:Okay, I'll bite. I am taking a university Biology course through correspondence. I HAVE to be done by Nov. 30. I'm nowhere near done! Plus, I don't understand it very well, especially the chemistry part.How about all of you on this website?
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I just know how some people need somewhere to complain/vent/talk whatever and aren't comfortable with talking face to face or a voice. Some like to talk to people they don't know, haven't seen, and likely aren't to see for the rest of their lives. (not suggesting you are one of these, because, well, I don't really know you :p)
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Love: is it real or an illusion?
Post #9Ok, I will bite.
Totally of subject of religion etc......Does the concept of love exist based on todays society. I mean, when someone says "I love you" to another person, the feeling is mutual, they get married etc..... Then 10 years from now, they "grew apart", "don't love each other any more" etc... See, this is a major problem in my life. I just don't believe love exists in the form of what society uses it for. I can say I love my children. I would do anything for them. I would give my life and the life of every other person on this planet for them. This to me is love. I have never experienced that emotion for anyone except blood family. My ex-husband is my best friend. We got married only to make our parents happy because we wanted children. There was no claim of love involved. After my last was born, we got a divorce, he bought the house right next to mine and it works great. I have seen many of my friends "fall in love". Some get married, some break up before marriage is an option. But I can say that I have only seen one of my friends who has gotten married, and stayed married over the past 17 years. All the rest, "fell out of love'. So how can anyone claim love exists as society defines it? I personally think it is nothing more than a temporary emotion that can be turned on and off at will. It doesn't mean any more to me than the word happy. Yet people claim that the "romeo and juliet" love exists and spend their entire life searching for it, failing to find it, or deluding themselves into thinking they found it only to discover they wasted 10 years of their lives on this delusion and start all over again. So if love exists, how can you tell it is real?
Totally of subject of religion etc......Does the concept of love exist based on todays society. I mean, when someone says "I love you" to another person, the feeling is mutual, they get married etc..... Then 10 years from now, they "grew apart", "don't love each other any more" etc... See, this is a major problem in my life. I just don't believe love exists in the form of what society uses it for. I can say I love my children. I would do anything for them. I would give my life and the life of every other person on this planet for them. This to me is love. I have never experienced that emotion for anyone except blood family. My ex-husband is my best friend. We got married only to make our parents happy because we wanted children. There was no claim of love involved. After my last was born, we got a divorce, he bought the house right next to mine and it works great. I have seen many of my friends "fall in love". Some get married, some break up before marriage is an option. But I can say that I have only seen one of my friends who has gotten married, and stayed married over the past 17 years. All the rest, "fell out of love'. So how can anyone claim love exists as society defines it? I personally think it is nothing more than a temporary emotion that can be turned on and off at will. It doesn't mean any more to me than the word happy. Yet people claim that the "romeo and juliet" love exists and spend their entire life searching for it, failing to find it, or deluding themselves into thinking they found it only to discover they wasted 10 years of their lives on this delusion and start all over again. So if love exists, how can you tell it is real?
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Never be bullied into silence.
Never allow yourself to be made a victim.
Accept no one persons definition of your life; define yourself.
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Re: Love: is it real or an illusion?
Post #10I think this is more psychology. I've read a book called "The Road Less Travelled" by M. Scott Peck. It talks about the psychology of love and relationships.Confused wrote:Ok, I will bite.
Totally of subject of religion etc......Does the concept of love exist based on todays society. I mean, when someone says "I love you" to another person, the feeling is mutual, they get married etc..... Then 10 years from now, they "grew apart", "don't love each other any more" etc... See, this is a major problem in my life. I just don't believe love exists in the form of what society uses it for. I can say I love my children. I would do anything for them. I would give my life and the life of every other person on this planet for them. This to me is love. I have never experienced that emotion for anyone except blood family. My ex-husband is my best friend. We got married only to make our parents happy because we wanted children. There was no claim of love involved. After my last was born, we got a divorce, he bought the house right next to mine and it works great. I have seen many of my friends "fall in love". Some get married, some break up before marriage is an option. But I can say that I have only seen one of my friends who has gotten married, and stayed married over the past 17 years. All the rest, "fell out of love'. So how can anyone claim love exists as society defines it? I personally think it is nothing more than a temporary emotion that can be turned on and off at will. It doesn't mean any more to me than the word happy. Yet people claim that the "romeo and juliet" love exists and spend their entire life searching for it, failing to find it, or deluding themselves into thinking they found it only to discover they wasted 10 years of their lives on this delusion and start all over again. So if love exists, how can you tell it is real?
It describes "falling in love" as being a response as a result of evolution. Two people find a sudden and intense attraction for one another. (butterflies in stomach, sweaty palms etc). And soon enough (10 years or sooner - funnily enough, the time it might take to have one or two children which are grown enough to help mum out when dad leaves) this feeling kinda fades away, and these people then fall out of love. Or even fell so far it broke. I think the book says something along the lines that this is not "true love", and cannot last forever, because it is not love for the person. Something like that anyway.
I think that he called that a cathexis. Like when a person says they love their garden.
I guess you will also have heard of stories of arranged marriages, where the relationship eventually "blossomed into love". This I think is about love for the person for who they are, like you may love a child or parent. (only, more intimate for obvious reasons).
Basically, I think "Romeo and Juliet love" is merely an illusion thanks to evolution.
Although, this is not to say that the "fallingin love" cannot develop into "love for the person for who they are".
Well, there are my thoughts. Who else wants a go?
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