Debating Runners!

[FinalEnigma]

An idea struck me while out running today, I'm trying to get in shape and get some exercise, and I'm sure there's others on here who are as well, so why not do it together and be accountable to one another? we all know that if you just do it on your own, with nobody to keep you honorable you're gonna cheat.

Now You don't have to run if running isn't your thing, you can walk, swim, bike, skip, fly or marathon somersault down the street if you like, the important thing is to get some exercise and keep up with it. You don't actually have to debate while running either, although that is worth bonus points.

I'm making a usergroup for this, and I know it's a bit silly and has nothing to do with the forum, but this is for everyone who's trying to get in shape, lose weight, or bring down their mile time.

I know I'm a few days late, but here's my new years resolution: To outrun everyone on DC&R! Now who's gonna stop me?
That's gonna be a tough one I know, as I'm not much of a runner at the moment, and I know at least Confused can outrun me, and I doubt shes gonna give ground without a fight.
And I know some of you have resolutions to get in shape. according to a poll on the news a few days ago that's the most common resolution, so who's up for doing it together? maybe a little competition and fun while we are at it?

So if you are interested, just post here with your current status(running time and distance, biking, swimming, walking, weight you're trying to lose[don't have to tell us your weight, just how much your trying to lose!]) and keep us updated every week or two weeks and post your latest accomplishment. Feel free to join the usergroup Debating Runners as well.(which I'm making right after this post)
I'll put up my mile time tomorrow once I get it timed.

[FinalEnigma]

Got back to running, but I think I set myself back by running myself into the ground like that. my muscles are getting tired and sore very easily. My knee still isn't too happy, but it's manageable. At least the last couple times I ran, but I got sick again, so I'm stuck not running for now. I don't get sick often since I started running so much, but when I do, I really get sick. I used to get sick rather often.

And don't even try to get me to go to the doctor again. I'm sure I'll be fine eventually, but for now I'm going to bed - fever/fatigue/semi-difficult-breathing combo has me whacked pretty good. Yes, I'm pulling for all the sympathy I can get.

And yes, I am 21. 22 in two weeks. Ask Zzyzx - he's met me in person.

[Confused]

my knee is already permanently damaged, this is just it reacting to being overused I'm sure. it's been four days since it was quite that bad...I have feeling again, and much of the swelling has gone down. Do I really still need to see a doctor? he's just gonna tell me the same thing he always has...there isn't really much they can do short of surgery, which I am not terribly enthused by and cannot afford anyway.
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Go to the dock. If you are getting numbness due to swelling, that is very serious stuff going on. You probably do need ice but you should probably also have a strong anti-inflammatory. If you need surgery, borrow the money to get it done. Why screw up the rest of your life for some stubbornness and a few extra bucks.
Set up a meeting tomorrow.

LOL, Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet pot!!!!!!!!! I think your stubbornness rivals FinalEnigmas.

[Confused]

I am so far behind on updates here. Up to maintaining a 9 minute mile for four miles on the trails and a 7 minute mile for four miles on the track. Biking is challenging, but a hoot.

Whats up with the body FinalEnigma? You take the advice from Cmass and see a doc?

You are doing awesome in your running and i love the fact that you are dedicated to it. There are very few things in life that can make me feels as good as running does.

[FinalEnigma]

I am so far behind on updates here. Up to maintaining a 9 minute mile for four miles on the trails and a 7 minute mile for four miles on the track. Biking is challenging, but a hoot.

Damn. You're in the hospital 80% of the time and I still can't touch you.
As soon as I get over this whatever I'm sick with I gotta go push harder. I think I can maintain a 7 minute mile for about...A mile and a half on the road. It's not completely flat, but doesn't have that many hills or anything.

Whats up with the body FinalEnigma? You take the advice from Cmass and see a doc?

Yeah, I went. here were the results -

The doctor said the numbness was probably exertion compartment syndrome(which is admittedly odd considering the swelling in my knee, but apparently it could be causing the numbness - two things wrong with me leg at once). There isn't anything they can do about it, except for surgery, but it may go away on its own as my body gets more used to the amount of running I'm doing. Also, it is not a problem unless it forces me to stop running - so I can just ignore it unless it gets pretty severe. Since there isn't the type of pain that frequently comes with that(my pain is in my knee, rather than my shin) it probably isn't even a very severe case of it, but just manages to push on my nerve pretty well.

You are doing awesome in your running and I love the fact that you are dedicated to it. There are very few things in life that can make me feels as good as running does.

You probably remember, back when you first recommended that I go running, that I said I didn't really like running much. Well, once I started doing it a bit I realized how much I do like it.

[Confused]

I am so far behind on updates here. Up to maintaining a 9 minute mile for four miles on the trails and a 7 minute mile for four miles on the track. Biking is challenging, but a hoot.

Damn. You're in the hospital 80% of the time and I still can't touch you.
As soon as I get over this whatever I'm sick with I gotta go push harder. I think I can maintain a 7 minute mile for about...A mile and a half on the road. It's not completely flat, but doesn't have that many hills or anything.

You forget how easy it is to sneak out of a hospital. Especially when the trails are only a 10 minute drive away and I have an accomplice and I work with the majority of the ones who don't "see" me sneak out (LOL).

Whats up with the body FinalEnigma? You take the advice from Cmass and see a doc?

Yeah, I went. here were the results -

The doctor said the numbness was probably exertion compartment syndrome(which is admittedly odd considering the swelling in my knee, but apparently it could be causing the numbness - two things wrong with me leg at once). There isn't anything they can do about it, except for surgery, but it may go away on its own as my body gets more used to the amount of running I'm doing. Also, it is not a problem unless it forces me to stop running - so I can just ignore it unless it gets pretty severe. Since there isn't the type of pain that frequently comes with that(my pain is in my knee, rather than my shin) it probably isn't even a very severe case of it, but just manages to push on my nerve pretty well.

Actually the compartment syndrome makes perfect sense because as the tissue swells, it compresses the nerves and can cause either hypersensitive shooting pain up and down the leg or numbness. Ask the docs about Neurontin (specifically for nerve pain but non-narcotic). Still taking Motrin for the inflammation? Still seeing PT?

You are doing awesome in your running and I love the fact that you are dedicated to it. There are very few things in life that can make me feels as good as running does.

You probably remember, back when you first recommended that I go running, that I said I didn't really like running much. Well, once I started doing it a bit I realized how much I do like it.

I am thrilled that you like it. Seldom do people who don't care for it actually push to do it and eventually come to like it. I am so glad you weren't one of them.

[FinalEnigma]

im glad too. loojk better in mirror too. will try to remembr drug. seeing PT? sorrry very sick righ tnow, typnig suffering. ask charles if you want to knpw more. was just talking to him.

[aerobatty]

It seems pretty much everybody here is into running. I know the topic definition says that anything related to getting in shape is legit, but running is definitely NOT my thing. I AM into weightlifting and have been doing it off and on (mostly off) since I was a teen. I'm now 55 and have been going to the gym religiously for almost a year now. My wife, who has resisted joining a gym for fear that they were all just pick up places, has become somewhat OCD about it and as a result of her having to go 7 days a week (and my having to go with her) I have sustained several injuries. The latest is an inguinal hernia which I had operated on a week ago today. Recovery is going great and I have actually been back to the gym (mostly due to my wife's fear that she's going to blow up and go flabby if she misses) already.

Any other weight lifters out there? I'm always looking for new exercises to round out my workouts and, hopefully, avoid more injuries.

[FinalEnigma]

I wanted to mention something, but probably should clarify my last post first. I was pretty sick when I posted that. I had the flu, and when I first got it, I ignored that fact and kept up with my 18 hours at school, job hunting, and little sleep(it was also approaching the end of the semester so lots of work). I ended up stuck at home in bed with a fever up to 103, difficulty breathing, a horrendous headache, and shivering like crazy(was very cold in the house at the time) and I posted that around a day or two later(in the same situation). I was feeling horrid enough that I didn't bother caring what I typed, hence the bad spelling. well, my flu decided to turn into pneumonia, and I ended up in the hospital for three days till it turned around enough that I could convince them to let me go home. that was 5 days ago. My apologies for that post.

and btw, yes, I am still taking motrin for my knee, but no, I haven't seen a physical therapist for at least 6 months.




If anybody had arms long enough I would get smacked in a second.

I went out running today, 5 miles. I decided to slow jog for one mile to warm up, then sprint/jog alternately in about 150 meter increments. (Note to people who run. Do not do this. It sucks.) After about 2 miles of half sprinting half jogging, I wasn't feeling that well. My chest was hurting a little bit, was nauseous, that kind of stuff, but it wasn't too bad. After about another half mile, I got hit with heart attack symptoms like last year. now remember, I didn't actually have a heart attack. Accoprding to the doctors, my lungs were freaking out and copycatting heart attack symptoms because I had an infection in my lungs and was begging to get pneumonia, and then went running harder than I was in shape for. Having just had pneumonia, I'm betting that my lungs are still rather unhappy and did the same thing.
Note, I'd ran 3.5 miles so far. This is where I get smacked. I didn't stop. I knew damn well I wasn't having a heart attack at the age of 21, so I cut my pace, but didn't stop. I continued feeling worse. I noticed however, that I felt worse when I was running slow. I did not know why, and so did nothing about it. after every bit of fast running I'd feel a little bit worse when I slowed down. After a while I started, when I was running slow, to almost fall on some steps. My eyes would close a second, and I'd pick myself up from halfway to the ground. I don't know what that was. I'm going to assume it was bad. I'm also pretty sure I had heat exhaustion at this point, as I know how to recognize it and had several of the symptoms(I had weakness in my legs, headache, heavy sweating, my skin was cool, and my pulse was close to 240, as well as nausea and unsteadiness). I realized at about 4.5 miles that my breathing had to be making the difference of feeling better wehn running faster. My breathing was deeper and better when I was running fast, and when I ran slow, it got shallower and not as good, so I kept my breathing deep and slow, and got over much of the awfulness, and finished the last .5 miles to home, at which point I fell on the couch and didn't move for 20 minutes.(didn't pass out, just didn't move. Eventually managed to get up and get a drink)

*Prepares to be beaten with a stick.*

I'm going to bed now. You can beat me tomorrow unless you have my phone number and want to tell me I'm an idiot verbally.

[Cmass]

It seems pretty much everybody here is into running. I know the topic definition says that anything related to getting in shape is legit, but running is definitely NOT my thing. I AM into weightlifting and have been doing it off and on (mostly off) since I was a teen. I'm now 55 and have been going to the gym religiously for almost a year now. My wife, who has resisted joining a gym for fear that they were all just pick up places, has become somewhat OCD about it and as a result of her having to go 7 days a week (and my having to go with her) I have sustained several injuries. The latest is an inguinal hernia which I had operated on a week ago today. Recovery is going great and I have actually been back to the gym (mostly due to my wife's fear that she's going to blow up and go flabby if she misses) already.

Any other weight lifters out there? I'm always looking for new exercises to round out my workouts and, hopefully, avoid more injuries.

I think the main jist of this thread is to encourage each other to exercise - mostly through running but whatever floats your boat should be encouraged.
I have done a fair amount of weight lifting in the past but mostly for endurance in order to train for rock climbing. I found the bulking-up style weight lifting was not as conducive to the longer, more cardio-related activities I naturally did. I now do so much physical yard work I rarely feel the need to weight lift. (8 hours straight of hard labor) Confused probably does the most intense, well-rounded workout of anyone in here so you can probably learn a great deal from her. The only thing she sucks at is mtn biking where I could easily kick her butt - and she knows it but is afraid to admit it.

[Cmass]

well, my flu decided to turn into pneumonia, and I ended up in the hospital for three days ...........

If anybody had arms long enough I would get smacked in a second.

I went out running today, 5 miles. ....After about another half mile, I got hit with heart attack symptoms like last year. now remember, I didn't actually have a heart attack. Accoprding to the doctors, my lungs were freaking out and copycatting heart attack symptoms because I had an infection in my lungs and was begging to get pneumonia, and then went running harder than I was in shape for. Having just had pneumonia, I'm betting that my lungs are still rather unhappy and did the same thing.............

*Prepares to be beaten with a stick.*

I'm going to bed now. You can beat me tomorrow unless you have my phone number and want to tell me I'm an idiot verbally.

Why beat you with a stick? It sounds like you are doing a perfectly fine job killing yourself on your own. Besides, it is evident you aren't going to listen to any advice anyway and will keep screwing yourself up royally.
And YES, you can have a hear attack at age 21 if you create the right set of conditions! Infection, inflammation, lack of oxygen, defect etc ...
Why are you so obsessed with staying in peak condition while waiting to get better? You are doing damage that will actually make you worse and take longer to recover. It actually takes quite a while for you to lose what you have gained in exercise so giving it a week or two break will not take much away and will be easy to regain.
There, was that enough of a lecture?
Now get back to your homework.

BTW: Since ZZ knows where you are, we can simply ask him to smack you upside the head.

- C