Does allowing for diversity include parents having no voice in what their children are forced to be taught and have to accept?
Do Christians and the many other cultures and belief systems opposed to homosexuality have the right to have their culture and religious views respected in society when it comes to decent and natural sexual behavior in the education system and in public?
Are homosexuals demanding accesss to children under the label of diversity and anti-hate legislation?
This seems the number one issue between average and normal "family" people and the homosexual agenda.
Can there be laws passed that keeps homosexuality from becoming forced on children and families that oppose it, without the homosexual community and homosexual action organizations crying discrimination?
Is there such a thing anymore as heterosexual rights?
Sodom, Greece, Rome and homosexuality.
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Post #91
Directly from the Bible, as we showed before.Where does a Christian find the support for killing people from their written beliefs?
And where do atheists find support for killing people if atheists are based upon no unanimous book at all?
Post #92
Atheism is a mental disorder. Sociopaths care nothing about the suffering of others. In fact cannot. Atheism as you say is the belief in nothing but self-serving innterest. It has no other definition.
That they are ruthless and non-caring is well documented. Only, in history, does the pitiless slaughter of others by Muslims come close to the deaths caused by atheism driven doctrine.
Now Christians "should" follow what Jesus said and the example he set. Christians that do not, deserve the judgment they get, whether by people like you or by eternal perspective. Jesus is by far the most harsh to the people that follow God. By far.
Where is hurting others and not caring about those that hurt you found in the teachings of Christ? Jesus certainly set the rabbi's of the Sanhedrin right about bad behavior.
The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah as laid out in Ezekiel, is so accurate to the way in which the homosexual agenda goes about its business. Greece and Rome were very much the same. Hedonism and sexual licentiousness first and foremost and damn the consequences.
Every child desires their own parents and the root of many emotionally disturbed children's problems are undebateably linkled to broken homes of their mothers and fathers. The nuclear family is incredibly important. But as we can all see, homosexuals - which by their own definition should not have offspring inclinations - want to be married and linked to "Family."
Total disregard to decency.
History repeating itself.
That they are ruthless and non-caring is well documented. Only, in history, does the pitiless slaughter of others by Muslims come close to the deaths caused by atheism driven doctrine.
Now Christians "should" follow what Jesus said and the example he set. Christians that do not, deserve the judgment they get, whether by people like you or by eternal perspective. Jesus is by far the most harsh to the people that follow God. By far.
Where is hurting others and not caring about those that hurt you found in the teachings of Christ? Jesus certainly set the rabbi's of the Sanhedrin right about bad behavior.
The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah as laid out in Ezekiel, is so accurate to the way in which the homosexual agenda goes about its business. Greece and Rome were very much the same. Hedonism and sexual licentiousness first and foremost and damn the consequences.
Every child desires their own parents and the root of many emotionally disturbed children's problems are undebateably linkled to broken homes of their mothers and fathers. The nuclear family is incredibly important. But as we can all see, homosexuals - which by their own definition should not have offspring inclinations - want to be married and linked to "Family."
Total disregard to decency.
History repeating itself.
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Post #93
[Gosh! I do need the rolling emoticon badly for cases like this!]Atheism is a mental disorder.
But I never said anything of the sort. Many atheists serve the interest of the community, and morally their contribution is more valuable, since they do it for conviction, not because some weird God told them to do it.Atheism as you say is the belief in nothing but self-serving innterest.
Not for a religious fundamentalist and bigot, indeed.It has no other definition.
Back to Luke 19:27Where is hurting others and not caring about those that hurt you found in the teachings of Christ?
Oh, really? Would you please quote the exact text where the two mythical cities are related to homosexuality?The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah as laid out in Ezekiel, is so accurate to the way in which the homosexual agenda goes about its business.
Isn't it time already for you to get back under the rock where you came from?Total disregard to decency.
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Post #94
You are obliged by the rules of debate to provide evidence from reputable authorities on mental disorders to back-up your claim. Unless you are equating sociopaths with atheism, your comment on sociopaths is irrelevant. If you are equating sociopaths with atheism then you must provide further evidence. Examples are not enough. Bad logic:AlAyeti wrote:Atheism is a mental disorder. Sociopaths care nothing about the suffering of others. In fact cannot. Atheism as you say is the belief in nothing but self-serving innterest. It has no other definition.
- Some sociopaths are atheists
- Therefore all atheists are sociopaths
Post #95
What if it turns out that homosexuality, while statistically deviant, is
in fact a completely natural mechanism for population regulation, or some
other natural variation?
How would you reconcile your position that it is bad with God made them that
way?
in fact a completely natural mechanism for population regulation, or some
other natural variation?
How would you reconcile your position that it is bad with God made them that
way?
Post #96
What if it turns out that homosexuality, while statistically deviant, is
in fact a completely natural mechanism for population regulation, or some
other natural variation?
How would you reconcile your position that it is bad with God made them that
way?
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Homosexuals are demanding to have "biological" children. Lesbians (whatever that means, Sappho was married to a man), are seeking to become pregnant, denying their "sexual orientation" while doing it. But, certainly cementing the deviannce of the norm.
A pregnant homosexual is an anomaly in an odd way. A homosexual male that wants children "biologically" is a hypocrite to the ol' "born that way" myth.
Genitalia points to sexual orientation. Actions, sexually, either confirm or deny that which is fact.
The anatomy is clearly defined by the Creator.
in fact a completely natural mechanism for population regulation, or some
other natural variation?
How would you reconcile your position that it is bad with God made them that
way?
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Homosexuals are demanding to have "biological" children. Lesbians (whatever that means, Sappho was married to a man), are seeking to become pregnant, denying their "sexual orientation" while doing it. But, certainly cementing the deviannce of the norm.
A pregnant homosexual is an anomaly in an odd way. A homosexual male that wants children "biologically" is a hypocrite to the ol' "born that way" myth.
Genitalia points to sexual orientation. Actions, sexually, either confirm or deny that which is fact.
The anatomy is clearly defined by the Creator.
Post #97
McCulloch,
Billions and billions of people believe that there is a God, or gods.
A fraction of the people on earth believe there isn't a god.
The minority wants to judge the majority and as in the case with government, Atheists demand to rule the masses.
A sociopath cares nothing for the feelings or beliefs of others.
Though, a sociopath can be (or appear to be) an upright citizen for a time, even doing "morally sound" things for society. The similarity to atheists actions is well documented and is uncanny in similarity. Even the abuse meted out without a tear or a thought to the masses crushed under the heels of atheist governments. Also well-documented in history.
Billions and billions of people believe that there is a God, or gods.
A fraction of the people on earth believe there isn't a god.
The minority wants to judge the majority and as in the case with government, Atheists demand to rule the masses.
A sociopath cares nothing for the feelings or beliefs of others.
Though, a sociopath can be (or appear to be) an upright citizen for a time, even doing "morally sound" things for society. The similarity to atheists actions is well documented and is uncanny in similarity. Even the abuse meted out without a tear or a thought to the masses crushed under the heels of atheist governments. Also well-documented in history.
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Post #100
Atheists do not demand to rule the masses as far as I know. Please provide evidence. I fail to see the relevance of the greater number of theists to atheists. By the way, since the theists seemingly cannot agree on how their god or gods want us to behave, I cannot see that one or the other version of god should be put in charge of societal rules. Do you?AlAyeti wrote:McCulloch,
Billions and billions of people believe that there is a God, or gods.
A fraction of the people on earth believe there isn't a god.
The minority wants to judge the majority and as in the case with government, Atheists demand to rule the masses.
So your argument is "The atheist governments of China and the Soviet union were sociopathic therefore all atheists are sociopathic". Am I right?AlAyeti wrote:
A sociopath cares nothing for the feelings or beliefs of others.
Though, a sociopath can be (or appear to be) an upright citizen for a time, even doing "morally sound" things for society. The similarity to atheists actions is well documented and is uncanny in similarity. Even the abuse meted out without a tear or a thought to the masses crushed under the heels of atheist governments. Also well-documented in history.
Non-theistic bases for morality have been well documented. Atheism is not necessarily the belief in nothing but self-serving interest. It's definition is a non belief in a supernatural god. There is no other definition. Your definition is a straw man.AlAyeti wrote:Atheism is a mental disorder. Sociopaths care nothing about the suffering of others. In fact cannot. Atheism as you say is the belief in nothing but self-serving interest. It has no other definition.