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The Gay Denomination.

For those people that desire same gender sexual behavior or thoughts, AND that claim to be a Christian and claim that their beliefs and theology can fit the New Testament witness, instead of waging an endless, fruitless and vicious war on other Christians - that will NEVER accept their gay doctrines and dogmas . . ., - why won't they just declare a new and alternative denomination, just like Watch Tower theological adherants and Mormons?

Why the need to join forces with anti-Christian and secularist movements to attack "Bible believing" Christians?

Afterall, in referencing the New Testament, there is no justifiable comparison of sex acts to being a slave (slavery), or the charge of bigotry and hatefulness in holding that marriage is a man and a woman.

Why not just start an "Out and Proud" Gay Denomination?

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I believe that whoever shows love and understanding helps his cause. Whoever shows smallness and meanness hurts his cause and himself.

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I believe that whoever shows love and understanding helps his cause.
Is it "love" to celebrate and encourage someone's sin and sinning? It has to be antithetical to the Gospel message to encourage licentiousness don't you think? I mean, you are delving into Christian matters for whatever reason you are doing so. So, you must have a bit of knowledge about the Gospels and the Letters.
Whoever shows smallness and meanness hurts his cause and himself.
Now see, that to me, defines the gay pride position. It is couched in smallness and most certainly championed by meanness. Look at how any Evangelcial is attacked so viciously for doing nothing more or less than the writers of the New Testament have set down for a Christian to do.

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99percentatheism wrote:
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I believe that whoever shows love and understanding helps his cause.
Is it "love" to celebrate and encourage someone's sin and sinning? It has to be antithetical to the Gospel message to encourage licentiousness don't you think? I mean, you are delving into Christian matters for whatever reason you are doing so. So, you must have a bit of knowledge about the Gospels and the Letters.
Whoever shows smallness and meanness hurts his cause and himself.
Now see, that to me, defines the gay pride position. It is couched in smallness and most certainly championed by meanness.


Look at how any Evangelcial is attacked so viciously for doing nothing more or less than the writers of the New Testament have set down for a Christian to do.
To prove the point:

http://gayagenda.com/yet-another-major- ... withdraws/

Is it that everyone and everything must submit to gay power?

How much satisfaction can there be in destroying The BoY Scouts?

Can the Church expect any less?


And,

Yet another example of the antithetical: http://gayagenda.com/

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99percentatheism wrote:
99percentatheism wrote:
Danmark
I believe that whoever shows love and understanding helps his cause.
Is it "love" to celebrate and encourage someone's sin and sinning? It has to be antithetical to the Gospel message to encourage licentiousness don't you think? I mean, you are delving into Christian matters for whatever reason you are doing so. So, you must have a bit of knowledge about the Gospels and the Letters.
Whoever shows smallness and meanness hurts his cause and himself.
Now see, that to me, defines the gay pride position. It is couched in smallness and most certainly championed by meanness.
99percentatheism wrote:Look at how any Evangelcial is attacked so viciously for doing nothing more or less than the writers of the New Testament have set down for a Christian to do.
To prove the point:

http://gayagenda.com/yet-another-major- ... withdraws/

Is it that everyone and everything must submit to gay power?
I don't think that it has anything to do with 'gay power'. I think that it's called D-I-S-C-R-I-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N.
99percentatheism wrote:How much satisfaction can there be in destroying The BoY Scouts?
Those who continue to discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation finish up destroying themselves. Remedy: Don't discriminate.

Wow, that was easy . . .

99percentatheism wrote:Can the Church expect any less?
I sure hope not. Why would 'the Church' be treated any differently just because more than a few of its members consider themselves to be 'would-be saints'? Remedy to resolve such Church issues: Don't discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation.

Gee ...that was just as easy as before . . .

99percentatheism wrote:And,

Yet another example of the antithetical: http://gayagenda.com/

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There are oodles of similar heterosexual sites ...enough, in fact, to swamp similar 'gay' sites. So, what's your point? Don't older homosexual people deserve companionship and (gasp), perhaps, even intimacy?

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99percentatheism wrote:
Is it "love" to celebrate and encourage someone's sin and sinning? It has to be antithetical to the Gospel message to encourage licentiousness don't you think? I mean, you are delving into Christian matters for whatever reason you are doing so. So, you must have a bit of knowledge about the Gospels and the Letters.
The only sin I see anyone celebrating in this dialogue is the sin of hatred. Many evangelicals chose to love. Being homosexual is not a choice. Hatred is. Those who take the point in their self appointed mission to root out their favorite 'sin' to 'save' their church would be well advised to consider if their zeal for purification dirties the very enterprise they claim to be saving.

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99percentatheism wrote:
99percentatheism wrote:
Danmark
I believe that whoever shows love and understanding helps his cause.
Is it "love" to celebrate and encourage someone's sin and sinning? It has to be antithetical to the Gospel message to encourage licentiousness don't you think? I mean, you are delving into Christian matters for whatever reason you are doing so. So, you must have a bit of knowledge about the Gospels and the Letters.
Whoever shows smallness and meanness hurts his cause and himself.
Now see, that to me, defines the gay pride position. It is couched in smallness and most certainly championed by meanness.
99percentatheism wrote:Look at how any Evangelcial is attacked so viciously for doing nothing more or less than the writers of the New Testament have set down for a Christian to do.
To prove the point:

http://gayagenda.com/yet-another-major- ... withdraws/

Is it that everyone and everything must submit to gay power?
I don't think that it has anything to do with 'gay power'. I think that it's called D-I-S-C-R-I-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N.
It looks to me that gay power is putting the Boy Scouts of America out of business from sheer spite.

If that isn't hatred based I don't know what is.

The Boy Scouts have been one of America's brightest organizations in its history.

Now it is under attack from gay pride. No hiding behind cunning political jargon and neologism. To CRUSH any organization that doesn't kow tow to gay pride? Certainly looks to be proven.
99percentatheism wrote:How much satisfaction can there be in destroying The Boy Scouts?
Those who continue to discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation finish up destroying themselves. Remedy: Don't discriminate.

Wow, that was easy . . .
But the Boy Scouts was doing just fine until homosexual organizations started attacking it.

Wow that is easy to point out.
99percentatheism wrote:Can the Church expect any less?
I sure hope not. Why would 'the Church' be treated any differently just because more than a few of its members consider themselves to be 'would-be saints'? Remedy to resolve such Church issues: Don't discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation.

Gee ...that was just as easy as before . . .
So the gloves are off? Your side does mean to CRUSH THE CHURCH TOO?
99percentatheism wrote:And,

Yet another example of the antithetical: http://gayagenda.com/

On the home page:

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There are oodles of similar heterosexual sites ...enough, in fact, to swamp similar 'gay' sites. So, what's your point? Don't older homosexual people deserve companionship and (gasp), perhaps, even intimacy?
[/quote]

So you are OK with older people trying to seduce younger people? Do you know what pederasty is? It is a major part of gay history.

So parents do not have any rights to have their children taken care of by people they can trust? Gay and other organizations get to demand to define what parents can do about who and what "supervises" their children?

Luckily, gay pide organizations cannot control where I send my money yet. (Although I have heard of gay orgs posting the names of Christians and others that support causes they hate) I will take away my financiial support for the Red Cross and some other secular organizations and switch it to the persecuted orgainzations like The Boy Scouts.

I think the concerns that Bible affirming Christians have about the ulterior motives of gay pride seem very well founded. If organizations like The Boy Scouts of America can be attacked with no way to help themselves against that attack, there is much to worry about. You are from another country, and look at your efforts.

The forced re-education of The Christian Church . . .? IBy non, un and anti-Christian forces? Is that next? Or is it well underway? The macinery certainly looks to be in place. All over the world even.
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99percentatheism wrote:
Is it "love" to celebrate and encourage someone's sin and sinning? It has to be antithetical to the Gospel message to encourage licentiousness don't you think? I mean, you are delving into Christian matters for whatever reason you are doing so. So, you must have a bit of knowledge about the Gospels and the Letters.
The only sin I see anyone celebrating in this dialogue is the sin of hatred.
So true. Imagine, gay organizations forcing people to celebrate their sexual proclivities.
Many evangelicals chose to love.
Where we are allowed to. If we don't accept and celebrate things that the secular world desirews that are antithetical (contradictory) to Christian truth, those un-Christian people label us as hateful bigots. I believe that is a hate crime too.
Being homosexual is not a choice.
Yet there is no scientific proof of that. There is no such thing as a gay gene.
Behaviors are a choice though. That can be proven.
Hatred is.


Hatred has many addresses. It exists on many streets and in many agendas.
Those who take the point in their self appointed mission to root out their favorite 'sin' to 'save' their church would be well advised to consider if their zeal for purification dirties the very enterprise they claim to be saving.
What? If you do not clean a mop, or a vacuum machine of the filth that builds up in them, the entire process of cleaning becomes an action of spreading filth and calling it sanitizing a room.

As the New Testament pints out so scientifically accurate, first you clean the filth from the mop and then you go clean other rtooms. But ONLY if the doors can be unlocked.

Doors locked from the inside, and held shut, can never be cleaned.

Hmmm, now I know why Jesus used parables.

Truth in analogy can be an absolute.

Should Christians allow everyone and anything that is antithetical (incompatible, opposite to truth) with the truth of scripture, to be allowed to have influence and power, or worse, allowed to wipe away Christian truth to implement a form of secular power over them?

Serioulsy, how is it not hate to attack Christians and demand that they live as pagans (non, un, and anti, Christians) do?

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99percentatheism wrote:
KCKID
99percentatheism wrote:
99percentatheism wrote:
Danmark
I believe that whoever shows love and understanding helps his cause.
Is it "love" to celebrate and encourage someone's sin and sinning? It has to be antithetical to the Gospel message to encourage licentiousness don't you think? I mean, you are delving into Christian matters for whatever reason you are doing so. So, you must have a bit of knowledge about the Gospels and the Letters.
Whoever shows smallness and meanness hurts his cause and himself.
Now see, that to me, defines the gay pride position. It is couched in smallness and most certainly championed by meanness.
99percentatheism wrote:Look at how any Evangelcial is attacked so viciously for doing nothing more or less than the writers of the New Testament have set down for a Christian to do.
To prove the point:

http://gayagenda.com/yet-another-major- ... withdraws/

Is it that everyone and everything must submit to gay power?
I don't think that it has anything to do with 'gay power'. I think that it's called D-I-S-C-R-I-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N.
99percentatheism wrote:It looks to me that gay power is putting the Boy Scouts of America out of business from sheer spite.
Wrong! 'Gay power', as you call it, has NOTHING to do with one's discriminating against another. The 'discriminator' is the one responsible for whatever befalls him or her.

What the heck IS 'gay power' anyway? Seems to be a figment of your imagination.

99percentatheism wrote:If that isn't hatred based I don't know what is.
Once again ...the one doing the discriminating is the one doing the hating.
99percentatheism wrote:The Boy Scouts have been one of America's brightest organizations in its history.
And there is no reason why it should not continue to be so.
99percentatheism wrote:Now it is under attack from gay pride.
It's 'under attack' for discrimination. No one other than the one discriminating is responsible for the one doing the discriminating. "I" should be prohibited from telling someone else that they SHOULD BE LIKE ME OR ELSE!
99percentatheism wrote:No hiding behind cunning political jargon and neologism. To CRUSH any organization that doesn't kow tow to gay pride? Certainly looks to be proven.
You, on the other hand, kowtow to the words contained within a book. Your knowledge of God and His many, MANY 'commands' (most of which you don't obey anyway) comes from no other source.
99percentatheism wrote:How much satisfaction can there be in destroying The Boy Scouts?
Those who continue to discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation finish up destroying themselves. Remedy: Don't discriminate.

Wow, that was easy . . .
99percentatheism wrote:But the Boy Scouts was doing just fine until homosexual organizations started attacking it.
Discrimination is never 'fine'. And, yet again, (*sigh*) it's those who discriminate who are the attackers and NOT the one's being discriminated against.
99percentatheism wrote:Wow that is easy to point out.
And just as easy to counter.
99percentatheism wrote:Can the Church expect any less?
I sure hope not. Why would 'the Church' be treated any differently just because more than a few of its members consider themselves to be 'would-be saints'? Remedy to resolve such Church issues: Don't discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation.

Gee ...that was just as easy as before . . .
99percentatheism wrote:So the gloves are off? Your side does mean to CRUSH THE CHURCH TOO?
I don't 'have a side', 99percent. I just expect the Church to do the right thing and start to behave 'Christian-like' ...i.e. to be more like Jesus.
99percentatheism wrote:And,

Yet another example of the antithetical: http://gayagenda.com/

On the home page:

Gay Younger For Older
www.GayMatureDating.com
Older Gay Men For Younger Gay Men. View Profiles 100% Free. Join
There are oodles of similar heterosexual sites ...enough, in fact, to swamp similar 'gay' sites. So, what's your point? Don't older homosexual people deserve companionship and (gasp), perhaps, even intimacy?
99percentatheism wrote:So you are OK with older people trying to seduce younger people?
Adults should be allowed to make their own choices with whom to have a relationship whether intimate or otherwise. You have absolutely no business poking your nose into the personal affairs of others.
99percentatheism wrote:Do you know what pederasty is? It is a major part of gay history.
The truth? I really don't care.
99percentatheism wrote:So parents do not have any rights to have their children taken care of by people they can trust?
Perhaps parents need to take care of their own kids in order to eliminate any such problem regarding 'trust'. Too many parents these days believe that someone is out to molest their little darlings, specifically by 'gays', it would seem. Paranoia would probably be America's biggest phobia with Australia either on a par or coming a close second. Seems like most parents are too busy accumulating as much money as they can (either to make ends meet or to 'keep up with the Jones') than to actually raise their kids effectively. I often wonder why some, even many, people have kids at all. But, as long as they do, they have to allow their kids to share this planet with others.
99percentatheism wrote:Gay and other organizations get to demand to define what parents can do about who and what "supervises" their children?
Some, even many, should perhaps give serious consideration to avoiding having kids at all if they can't raise them effectively. For those kids that are already here and for their paranoid parents ...maybe you need to supervise the kids yourself whenever possible instead of following your own pursuits. Then again, there's always the TV. That's the 'electronic stranger' that lurks in the corner of the room and supervises, educates and teaches moral values to the majority of American (and Australian) kids.

And, you're concerned about the imaginary 'gay' person who is lurking around the corner of every street desirous of 'supervising' the kids ...?

99percentatheism wrote:Luckily, gay pide organizations cannot control where I send my money yet. (Although I have heard of gay orgs posting the names of Christians and others that support causes they hate) I will take away my financiial support for the Red Cross and some other secular organizations and switch it to the persecuted orgainzations like The Boy Scouts.
Did I mention something about paranoia earlier ...?
99percentatheism wrote:I think the concerns that Bible affirming Christians have about the ulterior motives of gay pride seem very well founded.
There is no such thing as a Bible affirming Christian. Not unless one adheres to the hundreds of commands of which God expects total obedience. The majority of Christians can't even get their heads around the 4th-command of the Big Ten ...let alone the hundreds of other commandments that few have any knowledge of.
99percentatheism wrote:If organizations like The Boy Scouts of America can be attacked with no way to help themselves against that attack, there is much to worry about. You are from another country, and look at your efforts.
It's DISCRIMINATION that is under attack! Read above. The Boy Scouts of America (by the way, 99percent, you are aware that the U.S. is not the only country in the world, don't you?) will fold only if it chooses to fold. It ALONE is responsible for any outcome. Homosexual people have got nothing to do with it.
99percentatheism wrote:The forced re-education of The Christian Church . . .? IBy non, un and anti-Christian forces? Is that next? Or is it well underway? The macinery certainly looks to be in place. All over the world even.
If accepting people for who they are is considered 're-education of The Christian Church' then I'm all for this re-education. The sooner the better.

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KCKID:

Wrong! 'Gay power', as you call it, has NOTHING to do with one's discriminating against another. The 'discriminator' is the one responsible for whatever befalls him or her.




99percentatheism:

I notice that the gay agenda is not attacking the Hindu's and the Muslims. You don't what discrimination is right?


What the heck IS 'gay power' anyway? Seems to be a figment of your imagination.
Hmm, that seems like a dodge to me.

99percentatheism wrote:If that isn't hatred based I don't know what is.
Once again ...the one doing the discriminating is the one doing the hating.
That condemns the gay boycot machine of hate doesn't it? They want to destroy the Boy Scouts Of America because they will not allow homosexual men to supervise other people's children. You do realize that the Boy Scouts camp out with no one protecting them except a few, or sometimes one adult men/man?

Any decent parent should be concerned about what kind of man is out there alone with their defenseless child. There should be limits to what kind of person takes leadership positions over innocent children.


99percentatheism wrote:The Boy Scouts have been one of America's brightest organizations in its history.

And there is no reason why it should not continue to be so.
Tell that to the gay organizations trying to put the BSA out of business. Please stop the bullying and systematic attack on the BSA.

It's 'under attack' for discrimination. No one other than the one discriminating is responsible for the one doing the discriminating. "I" should be prohibited from telling someone else that they SHOULD BE LIKE ME OR ELSE!
Homosexuals are free to form gay scouting programs. Right? Interesting that they want influence over the BSA though.

No hiding behind cunning political jargon and neologism. To CRUSH any organization that doesn't kow tow to gay pride? Certainly looks to be proven

You, on the other hand, kowtow to the words contained within a book. Your knowledge of God and His many, MANY 'commands' (most of which you don't obey anyway) comes from no other source.
No other source? How about biology, physiology and anatomy SCIENCE BOOKS?

The BSA have the right to tell children that homosexuality is wrong based on pure facts. It is wrong based on their morality as well.


You wouldn't think twice about denying young adult men authority, influence and being alone with young girls out in the wilderness.

But if anyone dares to hold the same concerns about young adult gay men supervising male children it is discrimination?


How much satisfaction can there be in destroying The Boy Scouts?
Those who continue to discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation finish up destroying themselves. Remedy: Don't discriminate.

Wow, that was easy . . .
Discrimination is not always negative. We discriminate against unscrupulous business people all the time. We discriminate about what Doctors we use. Etc., etc., etc..

To hold that homosexuals cannot supervise and have authority over boys is not a bad policy but prudent decision.

It is no different than denying 18-year old guys the same positions over younger female children.


How many Girl Scouts parents would allow their little daughters to be alone out camping with and being supervisied by a heterosexual young adult man?

Discrimination is very moral and very necessary sometimes.

The Boy Scouts was doing just fine until homosexual organizations started attacking it.[/quote]
Discrimination is never 'fine'. And, yet again, (*sigh*) it's those who discriminate who are the attackers and NOT the one's being discriminated against.
You call good parenting and good morality and sensible choice, discrimination? I for one, warn my children about strangers and others that would lead them into immorality consistently. Sound discrimination with absolutely good morality and solid maturity supporting it.


Wow that is easy to point out.
And just as easy to counter.
We'll see about that . . .

Can the Church expect any less?

I sure hope not. Why would 'the Church' be treated any differently just because more than a few of its members consider themselves to be 'would-be saints'? Remedy to resolve such Church issues: Don't discriminate against others merely because of their sexual orientation.

Gee ...that was just as easy as before . . .
Those so-called saints, are people that have come out of sin and sinning and wish not to go back there. A whole segment OUT OF homosexuality. That IS the Christian life. The whole excuse for sexual inclinations allowing a person to stay in sin and sinning is a concept that is antithetical to Christian truth.

You have the right to peddle that belief-system out in your world and worldviews, but it is outright bullying to force that on Christians.


99percentatheism wrote:So the gloves are off? Your side does mean to CRUSH THE CHURCH TOO?


I don't 'have a side', 99percent. I just expect the Church to do the right thing and start to behave 'Christian-like' ...i.e. to be more like Jesus.

"You," a person that heaps such disdain for scripture is going to tell us how we are to be defined ??????

Your statement can only make sense if you use scripture accurately.

You don't see the irony in your demand?

If you did hold the view that Christians should do as Christians should, then you would be supporting the conservative Evangelical positions against gay pride in The Church.


99percentatheism wrote:And,

Yet another example of the antithetical: http://gayagenda.com/

On the home page:

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There are oodles of similar heterosexual sites ...enough, in fact, to swamp similar 'gay' sites.

Prove that?
So, what's your point? Don't older homosexual people deserve companionship and (gasp), perhaps, even intimacy?
In their gay world. Not in the BSA or The Church.

Tolerance and diversity.

99percentatheism wrote:So you are OK with older people trying to seduce younger people?

Adults should be allowed to make their own choices with whom to have a relationship whether intimate or otherwise.
In gay bars and in their homes. But not in places where other people's CHILDREN will be under authority of other adults.

You have absolutely no business poking your nose into the personal affairs of others.


Oh yes I do. ESPECIALLY as you defended homosexuals just now. You better believe that parents have the right to decide who has authority and influence ove r their children.

In fact, you declare that ubiquitously.


99percentatheism wrote:Do you know what pederasty is? It is a major part of gay history.


The truth?

I really don't care.
I really know that.
99percentatheism wrote:So parents do not have any rights to have their children taken care of by people they can trust?
Perhaps parents need to take care of their own kids in order to eliminate any such problem regarding 'trust'.

THEY DO! It's called the Boy Scouts of America. Scout Leaders are almost always parents of Scouts!!!

But homosexuals want to be in authority now don't they? Isn'tn that what the botcott is demandin? Let Gay Adults be leaders of other peoples male children?
Isn't that the demand?

Too many parents these days believe that someone is out to molest their little darlings, specifically by 'gays', it would seem. Paranoia would probably be America's biggest phobia with Australia either on a par or coming a close second.
What????

Good parents are always concerned about who and what is going to harm their child. Who and what is in authority and influence towards them. That's to be commended NOT sued.

And the "B" in L G B T . . . (?) is Bi-Sexuality. When a man has sex with someone of the same gender it is same gender sex. Same gender sex IS homosexuality. Parents of Scouts are also concernd about all adult men taking care of their children. But only NOW is that called hate, bigotry and phobia.

How fascianting a developement is that?

The Fox being able to demand access to the chickens through discrimation laws?


Seems like most parents are too busy accumulating as much money as they can (either to make ends meet or to 'keep up with the Jones') than to actually raise their kids effectively. I often wonder why some, even many, people have kids at all. But, as long as they do, they have to allow their kids to share this planet with others.
If I wanted to hear preaching I'd go to Church.


99percentatheism wrote:Gay and other organizations get to demand to define what parents can do about who and what "supervises" their children?


Some, even many, should perhaps give serious consideration to avoiding having kids at all if they can't raise them effectively.

Boy Scouts have become President. Many Eagle Scouts go on to be very successful people. Still though, anyone supervising other people's children have to pass the support of the parents of thise kids.

Sandusky was an impressive and successful man. Parents need to tell their children where a real monster can be found.
For those kids that are already here and for their paranoid parents ...maybe you need to supervise the kids yourself whenever possible instead of following your own pursuits.
HELLO???????

You label that hate, bigotry and phobia and of course PARANOID do you not????

Then again, there's always the TV. That's the 'electronic stranger' that lurks in the corner of the room and supervises, educates and teaches moral values to the majority of American (and Australian) kids.

And teaches those children that homosexual promiscuity is the thing to do. Have you ever tuned in to LOGO? They have a program called Noah's Arc.

UN -_______ believable. An afront on Christians by the title ,and the behaviors showcased in the programming was a danger to society.
Noah's Arc was the network's highest-rated original series; however . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Arc_(TV_series)
Of course there was the "in the public bathroom stall" sex scene.

Now isn't it interesting, that when Christians preach against straight films that have ubiquitous promicuity, they are called prudish and judgmental.

When the same is directed at homosexuality, it is legally challenged as a hate crime.

And, you're concerned about the imaginary 'gay' person who is lurking around the corner of every street desirous of 'supervising' the kids ...?
Well KID, if you can't understand the concerns of parents, to whom is taking care of their children out in the wilderness ALONE, than there is no way I can reach you.
99percentatheism wrote:Luckily, gay pide organizations cannot control where I send my money yet. (Although I have heard of gay orgs posting the names of Christians and others that support causes they hate) I will take away my financiial support for the Red Cross and some other secular organizations and switch it to the persecuted orgainzations like The Boy Scouts.
Did I mention something about paranoia earlier ...?
That Ho-Hum tactic would be laughable if it wasn't used to silence the opposition to homosexuality.

But we Christians do not silence easily as history has proven. The Gay issue and supporters of homosexuality (like you) will not be rid of us and our rights until Jesus decides to remove us from this planet.

You best be settled with tolerance and diversity.

As you can see, we're geared up for it.


99percentatheism wrote:I think the concerns that Bible affirming Christians have about the ulterior motives of gay pride seem very well founded.


There is no such thing as a Bible affirming Christian.

You left out the caveat KID. And, "your opinion" is duly noted for what it is.

Not unless one adheres to the hundreds of commands of which God expects total obedience. The majority of Christians can't even get their heads around the 4th-command of the Big Ten ...let alone the hundreds of other commandments that few have any knowledge of.


Please look up the word: irony

Your implementation of scripture being adhered to is quite the contradiction. You are completely fascinating to interact with.


99percentatheism wrote:If organizations like The Boy Scouts of America can be attacked with no way to help themselves against that attack, there is much to worry about. You are from another country, and look at your efforts.

It's DISCRIMINATION that is under attack! Read above. The Boy Scouts of America (by the way, 99percent, you are aware that the U.S. is not the only country in the world, don't you?) will fold only if it chooses to fold. It ALONE is responsible for any outcome. Homosexual people have got nothing to do with it.
Homosexual people and their alliances are definately trying to crush the BSA through the results of a boycott are they not? And, by the way, isn't it is via discrimination? The BSA is being singled out for a political and social pogrom-styled movement to put it out of business OR submit to gay power.

99percentatheism wrote:The forced re-education of The Christian Church . . .? By non, un and anti-Christian forces? Is that next? Or is it well underway? The machinery certainly looks to be in place. All over the world even.


[
color=blue]If accepting people for who they are is considered 're-education of The Christian Church' then I'm all for this re-education. The sooner the better.[/color]
Ominous and threatening. But at least the mask is off. How is "The Christian Church" supposed to survive if it is to be targated to be just like pagan and secular humanist institutions? If it is be allowed to exist by anti-Christians dictating that survival than it is not The Christian Church is it? Certainly "Evangelical Christians" most definately accept LGBT people for who and what they say they are. They (LGBT) make that clear and without any doubt.

They are taken at their words and deeds.

Thank you KCKID for coming out (as it were) about that.

No need for paranoia to be the charge when you articulate the secular demand so well right? It looks like paranoia is the wrong charge when well-reasoned concerns are solidly proven.

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How can you blame a gay Man for wanting to be a BSL? They can't have any kids of their own.....So let them watch the kids of other people. Who knows, maybe they well turn straight for a couple of years just to have a child, then become gay again.

It's the world we live in today....That's life.

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