Sodom, Greece, Rome and homosexuality.

[AlAyeti]

Does allowing for diversity include parents having no voice in what their children are forced to be taught and have to accept?

Do Christians and the many other cultures and belief systems opposed to homosexuality have the right to have their culture and religious views respected in society when it comes to decent and natural sexual behavior in the education system and in public?

Are homosexuals demanding accesss to children under the label of diversity and anti-hate legislation?

This seems the number one issue between average and normal "family" people and the homosexual agenda.

Can there be laws passed that keeps homosexuality from becoming forced on children and families that oppose it, without the homosexual community and homosexual action organizations crying discrimination?

Is there such a thing anymore as heterosexual rights?

[Cathar1950]

AlAyeti wrote:

Note that the attack on Christians is blatantly grasped.
No, I didn't I notice your attacks.

History of course, repeating itself.

Look at that quote. If anatomy, physiology and biology (all "sciences') are used to oppose the insanity of homosexualityb being named "normal" then Christians still get ridiculed.

There is Homosexual Agenda and it is anti-Christian.

Can you say "Nero."

Yes maybe all sciences are used to oppose your agenda but science is not on your side. To say it is so is Blatantly false.
Christians like you should be ridiculed.. That is not anti-christian. It is a having a good sense of humor.
Caius would be a better name to toss around so you can pretend your an end time Christian being persecuted rather then using Nero.
Your still calling homosexuality insanity I see.
I am sure there are many a psychologist that would say the same for you.

[Sender]

As I said earlier, you can be homosexual and a Christian at the same time.

[AlAyeti]

cathar,

It seems that Psycholgy is the only "science" that can seemingly justify a penis in a rectum as biologically acceptable. I'm sorry to tell you this, but the sciences that cling to anatomy, physiology and biology are not walkinng hand in hand with psychology. Ask your own doctor.

Empiricism is a good guide.

Ask a proctologist or a urologist if I am off base or not using sound reason about proper sexuality being defined as such?

In fact I'll bet you'll see and hear a good sense of humor from those very scientific people. That's not anti-Christian or homophobic huh?

You maybe right about Nero. The Romans finished him off right after his same-sex marriage. Now Hadrian, there was a example of a guy that loved anothger guy that didn't like those people that followed the Bible.

Ever heard of Masada?

[trencacloscas]

It seems that Psycholgy is the only "science" that can seemingly justify a penis in a rectum as biologically acceptable. I'm sorry to tell you this, but the sciences that cling to anatomy, physiology and biology are not walkinng hand in hand with psychology. Ask your own doctor.

Empiricism is a good guide.

Ask a proctologist or a urologist if I am off base or not using sound reason about proper sexuality being defined as such?

Are the fingers proper to be introduced in the rectum? If that's not the case, your proctologist is in contradiction with science also.

But there is no such anatomy preoccupation on your side, it's just homophobia. What do you care about who insert what into anybody's rectum voluntarily?

You maybe right about Nero. The Romans finished him off right after his same-sex marriage. Now Hadrian, there was a example of a guy that loved anothger guy that didn't like those people that followed the Bible.

Ever heard of Masada?

Please stop being pathetic.

[Sender]

Does allowing for diversity include parents having no voice in what their children are forced to be taught and have to accept?

You are entirely free to homeschool your children, and a good number of parents elect to go this route. However, if you are going to fund a certain endeavor with public money, you cannot use that public money to tell people that certain groups are "less" then others.

Do Christians and the many other cultures and belief systems opposed to homosexuality have the right to have their culture and religious views respected in society when it comes to decent and natural sexual behavior in the education system and in public?

No. Nobody has a right to have their views respected anywhere. They have a right to their views, but not to respect towards them. I don't respect the view that feels blacks are not people, I don't respect the view that we are free to torture animals because they're "less" then us.

In short, I respect your right to have the view, but I am not required to respect your view.

Are homosexuals demanding accesss to children under the label of diversity and anti-hate legislation?

No.

Can there be laws passed that keeps homosexuality from becoming forced on children and families that oppose it, without the homosexual community and homosexual action organizations crying discrimination?

What do you mean? Could you elaborate please? I seem to be of the impression that you would like children not to even know homosexuals exist, and would like clarification before I continue down this vein of thought.

Is there such a thing anymore as heterosexual rights?

Lets put your question aside for half a second, and look at a parallel question which is identical to yours except in magnitude.

I'm a member of the KKK. I hate Jews, I hate Blacks, I hate all non-white races. I do not want my children taught that Jews or Blacks are equals under the law. Would you respect my opinion? How would you feel if I were to try and get that view enacted into law?

Now, I know my example is a little extreme, but it seems to me that this is exactly what you're doing, except to an unpopular minority.

[Cathar1950]

I Prefer a woman doctor to put her finger up my rectum unnaturally. They have smaller fingers.
None of those sciences would agree with you AlAyeti.

Ask a proctologist or a urologist if I am off base or not using sound reason about proper sexuality being defined as such?

They would disagree with you unless they were a homophobic or sexually prejudice. .
I prefer Radical Empiricism.
Ever hear of David and Jonathan?
They were kind of gay for each other.
trencacloscas wrote:

Please stop being pathetic.

You know he can't.
Sometimes I wonder what's up his bum?

[AlAyeti]

It seems that Psycholgy is the only "science" that can seemingly justify a penis in a rectum as biologically acceptable. I'm sorry to tell you this, but the sciences that cling to anatomy, physiology and biology are not walkinng hand in hand with psychology. Ask your own doctor.

Empiricism is a good guide.

Ask a proctologist or a urologist if I am off base or not using sound reason about proper sexuality being defined as such?

Are the fingers proper to be introduced in the rectum? If that's not the case, your proctologist is in contradiction with science also.

But there is no such anatomy preoccupation on your side, it's just homophobia. What do you care about who insert what into anybody's rectum voluntarily?

You maybe right about Nero. The Romans finished him off right after his same-sex marriage. Now Hadrian, there was a example of a guy that loved anothger guy that didn't like those people that followed the Bible.

Ever heard of Masada?

Please stop being pathetic.

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Your posts need to be put up complete for rebuttal.

I used sound reason for my points of view. Even Masada.

I guess a proctologist could cut open a mans crotch to look at their prostate gland for cancer. Your comparison is laughable. Again nature, anatomy, physiology, biology and pure fact, stands against my being called a homophobe or bigot. What man or proctologist enjoys a rectal/prostate exam? None that I know of.

History has shown what the sexually deviant do to those that oppose them. Hadrian and Masada were also facts. Nero is also a fact. No bigotry but maybe a little concern on my part about the wholesale and irrational acceptance of sexual deviants as a downtrodden class of "people." What a joke.

Then Pedophilia is a race, if homosexuality is a classification of a "culture.". Your logic not mine.

Sodom, Greece, Rome . . . It is fascinating watching the whole thing happeninng again.Atheist/Secualrists must be from the bloodline of those laughing outside of Noah's boat. They certainly look exactly the same as Sodom's dear citizens.

I used to think that they were myths (Sodom, Noah), until I met the garden-variety Secularist that once again wallows in the same abominations and ridicules anyone else that doesn't.

It's fascinating how much the Five O'Clock news, and most universities, cement the Biblical stories as fact. History of course repeating itself.

Thank God for Abraham's formula.

[AlAyeti]

I Prefer a woman doctor to put her finger up my rectum unnaturally. They have smaller fingers.
None of those sciences would agree with you AlAyeti.

Ask a proctologist or a urologist if I am off base or not using sound reason about proper sexuality being defined as such?

They would disagree with you unless they were a homophobic or sexually prejudice. .
I prefer Radical Empiricism.
Ever hear of David and Jonathan?
They were kind of gay for each other.
trencacloscas wrote:

Please stop being pathetic.

You know he can't.
Sometimes I wonder what's up his bum?

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Ahh, a Biblical literalist.

I agree that it's a fact that David said this about Jonathan.

I guess then using your logic, soldiers that willingly died for their buddy's, were in love with them sexually? Throwing yourself on a hand grenade takes on a whole new, and from your perspective, a very new conotation.

Or else maybe David was talking about something even higher than your idea of bump and grind equaling great love?

And you wonder what I'm doing.

Get your head out of your Hustler mag and think with a sound mind.

[palmera]

Ahh, a Biblical literalist.

I agree that it's a fact that David said this about Jonathan.

I guess then using your logic, soldiers that willingly died for their buddy's, were in love with them sexually? Throwing yourself on a hand grenade takes on a whole new, and from your perspective, a very new conotation.

Nice double standard. Why is it that the Bible is perfectly clear and concise according to you when it comes to homosexuality as an abomination, and yet when someone mentions that David, the Apple of YHWH's Eye has homosexual tendencies as shown in the Bible, you satirically argue against reading this passage with the same superficial value as you read other passages regarding homosexuality?
The great pitfall of Biblical interpretation comes when one's own biases color the text; thus, relegating those passages which one finds troubling into dark, silent corners, and thrusting other passages more open to manipulation into the forefront of ones ideas about God and the world. Too often ears are subjugated to the voices of those who would use scripture to their own means, to those for whom the world is so clouded by prejudice and fear that they know not what they do.

[AlAyeti]

You need meds. There is no where in the text that David desired sexual intercourse with Jonathan.

Many men love their friends and will exclude time with their wives and girlfriends to spend time with their "friends." Think about sports fans anywhere in the world.

Men do not want oral sex with each other during the SuperBowl. Not sane men. In fact, I wonder what would happen if that were suggested. I see a new show for Comedy Central.

To corrupt the Biblical text is not just stupidity, this is trolling.

It might be better for you to try to sicken the Kama Sutra. The Bible (and of course human anatomy) is clear about same-sex sex.

Sodom is no more a myth than Greece huh?