Does allowing for diversity include parents having no voice in what their children are forced to be taught and have to accept?
Do Christians and the many other cultures and belief systems opposed to homosexuality have the right to have their culture and religious views respected in society when it comes to decent and natural sexual behavior in the education system and in public?
Are homosexuals demanding accesss to children under the label of diversity and anti-hate legislation?
This seems the number one issue between average and normal "family" people and the homosexual agenda.
Can there be laws passed that keeps homosexuality from becoming forced on children and families that oppose it, without the homosexual community and homosexual action organizations crying discrimination?
Is there such a thing anymore as heterosexual rights?
Sodom, Greece, Rome and homosexuality.
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Post #151
Christians in the past stood up, Bible in hand, and said they would stand for what scripture says about slavery too; also about Jews; also about other Christians; also Buddhists, Hindus, Daoists, Native Americans, Muslims, and anyone else that's "different" or "evil" or "non-Christian" according to highly specified, exclusionary standards of lifestyle, ethnicity, religion etc... The Bible is not being described as a book of hate but rather the people who used as it a tool to that end. It's so utterly horrifying and terrible to think of what atrocities have been perpetrated in the past with Bible in hand, that anything which can be done to counteract hate crime and hate legislation early is and should be done. You're right, the homosexual agenda is farsweeping: one of love and toleration, one of tearing down walls of hate and injustice. Right to marriage is surely only the tip of the iceberg- for its opponents its the tip of the iceberg of intolerance as well. The laws enacted across the country are not aimed at shoving an agenda down anyone's throat or even as tools to silence opposition, but rather they are designed to promote peace in the face of acts of aggression and understanding in the place of ignorance. The laws do not declare that one doesn't have the right to think or feel a certain way, but rather that we do not have the right to act on those feelings in a way which is harmful to others. It's interesting that you feel it's the right of self-righteous Christians everywhere to proclaim opposition to LGBTs; and yet, I wonder what you'd say to one who uses the same argument to voice across America opposition to Blacks, Latinos, Mexicans and any other group of people different from the American majority of WASPs. Though horrific, it is well within the rite of anyone to do just that, but it doesn't make it right, and it most certainly raises alarm as to highly possible dangerous manifestations of proclamated intolerance. Any attempt to silence prejudicial language as you have cited is the case against Christians, is a thoughtful attempt to prevent words turned into hateful actions before they materialize as such, not tools of oppression.If we disagree we are being forced now to be silent or face prosecution.
If we stand up Bible in hand and say that we will stand on what scripture says about homosexuality, we are called hateful things, and we are prosecuted. The Bible is, has and will be in the future deemed a hate book. As I have indicated in many other posts, and given examples, it has already happened in Canada and other places around the world. It will happen here. The homosexual agenda is not just about the right to marry..............no way. That my friend is only the tip of hte iceburg.
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Post #152
No, you are censored because you are molesting and harassing innocent people whose lifestyle doesn't affect you at all. That is what Christian do better, attacking people just for being different.They want everyone to accept it, to tolerate it. It is rammed down our throats today. We are being silenced because of the homosexual agenda.
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Post #154
God's laws are interpreted they always have been. Preaching from the bible does not make you correct.
In this country, so far, their life style is none of your business.
Promoting lies is a crime and slander in Canada. It should be here.
In this country, so far, their life style is none of your business.
Promoting lies is a crime and slander in Canada. It should be here.
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Post #156
Do you think the homosexuals have a right to want the Bible banned, as hate speech?
What a jolly good idea!

Now, seriously speaking. If you use the mumbo jumbo of the Bible to attack innocent people, it may be considered hate speech.
A criminal is not only who commits a crime but the one that instigates it too. Christianity persecuted homosexuals since its very inception. Killed, tortured, denied, molested, repressed, forced to live in obscurity... Don't homosexuals have the right to defend themselves against the Inquisition that people like you and your hate pastors pretend to re-establish?Do you think all Christians like myself, pastors included, should be criminally prosecuted for speaking peacefully that homosexuality is an abomination?
The discriminating part, always. That is, the ones that pretend to force views upon and against others. In this case, you and your pastors.Who is NOT being tolerant here?
Post #157
Please tell me in what ways the Bible is bring banned, and how you think this country which has never been led by anyone but Christians is going to ban it here in America. Disallowing preachers to abuse their status is not banning the Bible. Your arguments are inflamed and overstated- further, if freedom of speech was being denied anywhere it would directly violate the 2nd amendment rights of the individual bringing the issue before the supreme court: if you would, please site a few cases where a supreme court judge has voted to deny freedom= in fact, please site even one case where a supreme court judge made such a decision.
Also, the scriptural basis for your arguments, with proper analysis, you will find weak at best given the historical circumstances and cultural realities surrounding said scripture. Furthermore, the selective following of certain parts of scripture and not others to suit benefit oneself is ludicrous and a raping of the Bible. If one is to discredit homosexuals using the Bible while not following the myriad of others restrictions, or without discrediting ever person who is wealthy and powerful, then that person (representative of the majority of Christians in this country) is using the Bible to their own ends; indeed, that person places themselves above the scripture, above God, and above her/his fellow human being.
Also, the scriptural basis for your arguments, with proper analysis, you will find weak at best given the historical circumstances and cultural realities surrounding said scripture. Furthermore, the selective following of certain parts of scripture and not others to suit benefit oneself is ludicrous and a raping of the Bible. If one is to discredit homosexuals using the Bible while not following the myriad of others restrictions, or without discrediting ever person who is wealthy and powerful, then that person (representative of the majority of Christians in this country) is using the Bible to their own ends; indeed, that person places themselves above the scripture, above God, and above her/his fellow human being.
Post #158
Cut the crap...post some proof.the bible will be banned and like in Canada pastors cant preach from the bible about homosexuality.
By proof, I mean an actual news article...not a paraphrased account
or quotes from an obviously biased book.
Your prior statement ( which you did not back up with ANY supporting
evidence ) about the Bible being banned in Canada, turned out to be
the prevention of Bibles being handed out during the swearing in ceremony
of new citizens. Hardly a banning.
If the institution of marriage is so important...fix the divorce rate.
Condemn divorce...the Bible is unambiguous about divorce.
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Note that the attack on Christians is blatantly grasped.trencacloscas wrote:Do you think the homosexuals have a right to want the Bible banned, as hate speech?
What a jolly good idea!![]()
Now, seriously speaking. If you use the mumbo jumbo of the Bible to attack innocent people, it may be considered hate speech.
A criminal is not only who commits a crime but the one that instigates it too. Christianity persecuted homosexuals since its very inception. Killed, tortured, denied, molested, repressed, forced to live in obscurity... Don't homosexuals have the right to defend themselves against the Inquisition that people like you and your hate pastors pretend to re-establish?Do you think all Christians like myself, pastors included, should be criminally prosecuted for speaking peacefully that homosexuality is an abomination?
The discriminating part, always. That is, the ones that pretend to force views upon and against others. In this case, you and your pastors.Who is NOT being tolerant here?
History of course, repeating itself.
What a jolly good idea!

Now, seriously speaking. If you use the mumbo jumbo of the Bible to attack innocent people, it may be considered hate speech.
Look at that quote. If anatomy, physiology and biology (all "sciences') are used to oppose the insanity of homosexualityb being named "normal" then Christians still get ridiculed.
There is Homosexual Agenda and it is anti-Christian.
Can you say "Nero."