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I agree completely and you make an important observation that I had not completely considered.
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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Well explained. Most readers should understand even if Apologists do not.
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The bad news is he keeps forcing you all to repeat yourselves. The good news is that it's forcing such refinement and brevity as to be very useful later.
"The historical method can only tell us what probably or most likely happened in the past. Since miracles are, by definition, improbable, if not in fact impossible, they are methodologically outside the bounds of historical inquiry.

History, then, as a disciple, cannot tell us if Jesus was divine or worked miracles any more than it can for Alexander the Great or Caesar Augustus[...]Any supernatural claim about Jesus can only be accepted as a matter of faith. Again, this is the domain of theology rather than history."

-Historia

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Well done. Although at this point, I honestly think it can't be explained any other way.
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Some force seems to restrict me from buying into the apparent nonsense that others find so easy to buy into. Having no religious or supernatural beliefs of my own, I just call that force reason. -- Tired of the Nonsense

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"You might as well make a case for unfairness and hypocrisy, while you're at it."

That'n stings.
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Brilliant
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Excellent response

I just became aware that we have been members here about the same length of time -- pushing ten years.

Apologist arguments seem to me to have deteriorated -- or is it just that they have been shot full of holes so often that rebuttal is no longer a challenge?
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"If there is a God then I promise you he won't be mad for you trying to find the truth."

Truly. And if he he did get mad over someone seeking truth he wouldn't be worthy of worshiping anyway.
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Sniff. Brings a tear to the eye, that.
"The historical method can only tell us what probably or most likely happened in the past. Since miracles are, by definition, improbable, if not in fact impossible, they are methodologically outside the bounds of historical inquiry.

History, then, as a disciple, cannot tell us if Jesus was divine or worked miracles any more than it can for Alexander the Great or Caesar Augustus[...]Any supernatural claim about Jesus can only be accepted as a matter of faith. Again, this is the domain of theology rather than history."

-Historia

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