Jesus is Lord?

[man]

Jesus is Lord!

I have seen this on bumper stickers, TV and the internet, but I'm not quite sure what it means.

It seems to be saying that Jesus and the God are the same thing, is this correct?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by man]

Not in my opinion no.

"Lord" is a title, like "Mr" or "Teacher" and the title "Lord" in scripture is not only applied to YHWH (Jehovah) but to humans, other (false) gods, and as you mention Jesus. Just as calling to two different people "Sir" doesn't imply they are all one and the same person, calling Jesus Lord doesn't of itself imply they are both the same person.


JW

[tigger2]

[Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness]

Except for "wife," your answer is excellent.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 3 by tigger2]

... yes, "wife" isn't a title. My bad. Actually I still had time to edit so I took "wife" out ..

Thanks "Eagle Eye".


JW

[Monta]

Jesus is Lord!

I have seen this on bumper stickers, TV and the internet, but I'm not quite sure what it means.

It seems to be saying that Jesus and the God are the same thing, is this correct?

The story of doubting Thomas:
John 20:26-28King James Version (KJV)

26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

[marco]

[Replying to post 1 by man]

Not in my opinion no.

It is astonishing that such a major claim is the subject of humble opinion rather than revealed truth, for Jehovah's Witnesses. One would have expected solid confirmation somewhere that either JESUS IS GOD or JESUS IS NOT GOD. For it to be reduced to a mere matter of opinion, by one believer, is a big surprise. And, we must be honest, does not say a lot for some Christian sects as having certainty in their beliefs. This is one area where infallibility becomes very useful, as in the RC Church.

[man]

[Replying to post 1 by man]

Not in my opinion no.

"Lord" is a title, like "Mr" or "Teacher" and the title "Lord" in scripture is not only applied to YHWH (Jehovah) but to humans, other (false) gods, and as you mention Jesus. Just as calling to two different people "Sir" doesn't imply they are all one and the same person, calling Jesus Lord doesn't of itself imply they are both the same person.


JW

My problem with that interpretation is it smacks of polytheism.

If Jesus and God were the same person the polytheism problem goes away which from what I have read in other places from basic christians to theologists is what gave the Jesus is Lord saying its start.

[man]

Jesus is Lord!

I have seen this on bumper stickers, TV and the internet, but I'm not quite sure what it means.

It seems to be saying that Jesus and the God are the same thing, is this correct?

The story of doubting Thomas:
John 20:26-28King James Version (KJV)

26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

So are your saying Jesus and God are the same thing?

[Elijah John]

Jesus is Lord!

I have seen this on bumper stickers, TV and the internet, but I'm not quite sure what it means.

It seems to be saying that Jesus and the God are the same thing, is this correct?

I think the way most modern bumper-sticker Christians mean it is that "Jesus is God".

But that is not the original meaning of the expression. To Paul, it meant "Jesus is master" our best authority for understanding things Divine and the mediator for access to the Divine.

In the OT/Hebrew Bible "LORD" always meant YHVH, Lord meant Adonai ( "my Lord, referring to YHVH)

Only in the NT does the lower case "Lord" refer to Jesus.

[ttruscott]

Jesus is MY LORD is overt support for His deity and the Trinity for me. Jehovah, YHWH are names for three divine persons in their UNITY, their `echad-ness (if I may) the `echad of the Sh'mah and of Genesis 2:24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become ONE / `echad flesh.

Their flesh doesn't dissolve into one lump or puddle but it is ONE flesh not two in GOD's eyes as the closest humans can come to the UNITY of the Trinity. Why else tell us about this oneness we can't see or experience even during the act if it has nothing to do with the oneness [`echad-ness] of GOD HIMself??