Comparing K.J.B. with N.W.T.

[placebofactor]

This is a direct challenge, verse by verse of the N.W.T., and the King James Bible. I am not going to give an opinion. You can compare and decide which Bible is true to the word. I will be using an 1824 and 2015 King James Bibles. As for the N.W.T., I have the 1971, 1984, and 2013 editions. Their first copyright came out in 1961. Before 1961 the Witnesses used a K.J.B.

Okay, let’s get started.
We should all agree on this. The original language of the Old Testament was written in Hebrew and a few verses were written in Chaldean. The New Testament was originally penned in Greek.
The foundation source for the K.J.B. is the Textus Receptus or Received Text. The translation of the text of all ancient known Papyrus Fragments, Uncials, Cursives, and Lectionaries, collectively are known as the "Receptus Textus" and the "Masoretic text." Their number, 5,500 copies, plus 86,000 quotations or allusions to the Scriptures by early Church Fathers. There are another 45 document sources for the N.W.T., although they list 94 in the 1984 edition. The N.W.T. two main sources are the "B" Vatican manuscripts 1209, and the A. or, "Aleph Sinaiticus."

Let’s begin with Philippians 2:8-9-10-11.

Verse 8 in K.J.B. ends with “death of the cross.”
Verse 8, N.W.T. ends with, “death on a torture stake.”

Verse 9 in the N.W.T. ends with a comma “,”.
Verse 9 in the K.J.B. ends with a colon: I hope you understand the difference between the two. The N.W.T. is the only Bible that ends verse 9 with a comma.

Also, note as you read these verses, they have added the word (other) and put it in brackets in the 1984 edition, but removed the brackets in the 1971 or 2013 editions, making it part of the verse. Adding the word (other) gives a reader the impression that the name of Jesus is second to the name Jehovah. In their Interlinear translation, their Greek reads, “over every name.”

Also, "(at) the name of Jesus" has been changed to "(in) the name of Jesus.
"Bow a knee" has been changed to "bend," and "confess" has been changed to "acknowledge."

Bend is not a New Testament word. In the O.T. it is used strictly for “bending or stringing a bow.” To bow a knee is to pay homage or worship. Compare with Romans 14:11, As I live, said the LORD, every knee shall bow to me,” Same word in Philippians.

In English, "bend," means to change shape, or change someone's will, to yield or submit. To yield or submit is not to worship. This change of words chips away at the glory of the Lord Jesus.
Compare verses below:

K.J.B.
Philippians 2: 9-10-11, "God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth and things under the earth; (semi colon) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

N.W.T.
Philippians 2:9-10-11, “For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every (other) name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, (coma) and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Your comments on the above.

[servant1]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #80]

New Catholic Encyclopedia 1967, Vol XIII, pg. 575= The majority of NT texts reveals Gods spirit as something not someone.
It was Catholicism who screwed most of it up at their councils in the 4th century=2Thess 2:3--Their translating has mislead billions including all protestant religions.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #80]

New Catholic Encyclopedia 1967, Vol XIII, pg. 575= The majority of NT texts reveals Gods spirit as something not someone.
It was Catholicism who screwed most of it up at their councils in the 4th century=2Thess 2:3--Their translating has mislead billions including all protestant religions.

Very true. I haven't had any trinitarian able to tell me how a Person could be divided into millions of pieces and scattered throughout the earth and the universe.

[placebofactor]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #82]

The Watchtower’s claim: Because the BSy does not contain the following verses from John 7:53 to 8:11, they left these 12 verses out of the N.W.T. and put them in their footnotes. I suppose that makes them feel less guilty. As I said before the BSy of B. is a corrupt document, having many changes made by unknown hands, yet the Watchtower uses it as a foundation text.

Following is what they left out. There are many doctrines mentioned in these verses, all of which the Witnesses obviously doubt.

K.J.B. John 7:53 to 8:11, “And every man went unto his own house. Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, they say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest you?

This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him, but Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? Hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.”

[historia]

New Catholic Encyclopedia 1967, Vol XIII, pg. 575= The majority of NT texts reveals Gods spirit as something not someone.

This is a clear example of quote mining.

The sentence literally right before this one on pg. 575 of this particular encyclopedia says: "Although the NT concepts of the Spirit of God are largely a continuation of those of the OT, in the NT there is a gradual revelation that the Spirit of God is a Person." In fact this section of this article on the "Spirit of God" is titled "The Spirit of God as a Person."

I haven't had any trinitarian able to tell me how a Person could be divided into millions of pieces and scattered throughout the earth and the universe.

That's because Christians don't believe that in the first place. Instead, they believe God is omnipresent.

[servant1]

[Replying to historia in post #84]


If it were a living being with equality with God and his son, it would have a personal name. And one would have to know him as one does the Father and son to get eternal life.( John 17:3) And it would be shown on a throne as the Father and son are.

[historia]

[Replying to servant1 in post #85]

You can believe whatever you like. I'm just pointing out to you that you have deceptively quoted this particular Catholic encyclopedia out of context. Just like you are deceptively posting under a new username after your were previously banned from this forum, kjw47. You are bearing false witness.

[servant1]

[Replying to historia in post #86]


I showed you the following line after the line you shared, which means i posted truth.

[placebofactor]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #83]

Matthew 28:6, The angel at the tomb said to Mary, “He (Jesus) is not here: for he is risen, as he said, Come, see the place where the Lord lay.”

But the Watchtower attaches an altogether different meaning to the empty tomb, claiming that the Father “disposed of” Jesus body:

The Watchtower, November 15, 1991, page 31. “God disposed of Jesus body, not allowing it to see corruption and thus preventing its becoming a stumbling block to faith.”

Studies in Scriptures, Volume 7, page 57. “We deny that he was raised in the flesh and challenge any statement to that effect as being unscriptural.”

But Jesus said to the Jews, speaking of his body, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

The N.W.T. even states that Jesus said, “I will raise it up.”

So why does the Watchtower deny the resurrection of Jesus bodily? Because the facts related in Scripture contradict Watchtower's teaching on heaven, hell, and the afterlife in general. Christians understand that Christ’s spirit remained alive in the invisible world during the time his body lay in the tomb, but the Witnesses deny it.

[servant1]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #88]


They couldn't recognize Jesus the first day, so explain if he was in his real body why they couldn't recognize him> And as well explain how he appeared behind a locked door and prove that a body of flesh can do that? Or is it that being Gods son can appear wherever and in what ever body or spirit he chooses?

[placebofactor]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #88]


They couldn't recognize Jesus the first day, so explain if he was in his real body why they couldn't recognize him> And as well explain how he appeared behind a locked door and prove that a body of flesh can do that? Or is it that being Gods son can appear wherever and in what ever body or spirit he chooses?

If someone you knew had been brutally murdered, their face and body disfigured, then you went to their funeral and saw them in a casket, then buried. Then 3 days later they came up to you and said, "servant 1" it's me, what do you think your reaction would be? I guarantee you it would not be, "Hay, I'm surprised to see you." More than likely "It can't be, it's impossible!"

How did he pass through a door? Easy, because he was now in a glorified, incorruptible, immortal body.