John 5:17-18, “Jesus answered them (the Jews), my Father worketh hitherto, and I work. And therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”
In order to understand the impact Jesus' words had on the Jewish mind, we have to take ourselves back 2000 years. The Jews understood from Jesus' words, and in their understanding, that whatever the Father’s work was, the Son’s work was the same, showing and also proving that He and the Father are one. Not only had Jesus broken the sabbath, but He had also made Himself equal to God. And for both crimes, according to the Jewish law, he must be put to death.
John 19:7, “The Jews answered him (Jesus), we have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.”
The chief priests of the temple charged Jesus with blasphemy, voting that he deserved to die. Matthew 26:65-66, “The high priest (tore) his clothes, saying, he (Jesus) has spoken blasphemy; which further need have we of witnesses? Behold, now you have heard his blasphemy. What think you? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.”
As far as the Jews were concerned, and according to the law, Jesus' words were a capital offence, for saying that whatever things the Father does the Son likewise does. Jesus did his work in the same manner, with the same authority, energy, power, and effect as the Father. And for this, he was loved by the Father and hated of men.
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Re: John 5:17-18
Post #41It doesn't say he's not Jehovah either.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:24 amNo problem there. But that doesn't make him Jehovah.placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:57 amCorrect, Our Savior sits at the right hand of his Father in heaven. It's what you call co-rulership. Revelation 22:3, In the kingdom, "There shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;" Verse 5, "The Lord God gives them light: and THEY SHALL REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER." It's Jesus Christ who is the Light and life of the world.tygger2 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:39 pm [Replying to placebofactor in post #30]
placebofactor: He has been given all things John 16:15, "ALL THAT THE FATHER HAS ARE MINE:" Note the word "ALL." It DOESN'T MEAN HALF, OF 99% IT READS, "ALL." Why is that so difficult to understand? He is our Shepherd, are Mediator, our Judge and jury.
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(KJV) .... 1 Corinthians 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that he [the Father] is excepted, which did put all things under him.
(NIV) …. Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything [ta panta] under Christ.