Jesus said that we all must love Jehovah our God and worship only Him. He stated clearly that his Father was the only true God (John 17:3); he didn't say that we are the only true God. In many places in the Scriptures he calls the Father "my God."
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3, KJV)
"Jesus saith unto her [Mary], Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father, but go to my brethren and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God. (John 20:17, KJV)
"At the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted: My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34, KJV)
"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall no more go out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is New Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name." (Revelation 3:12, KJV)
I think Jesus wants us to recognize that his Father, Jehovah, is God, and he is God's Son. (John 10:36) What do you make of this?
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Post #321They are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:01 pmHeavenCapbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:27 amWhere is Jesus when the Father said to Jesus, "therefore God"? Heaven or earth? (Heb 1:9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:43 amThis speaks of his life on earth and also in heaven. On earth he was a perfect MAN, in the form of humans.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:04 amHow do you interpret this phrase in Phil 2:6 and 7;onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:46 pmI have posted before that Philippians 2:6 does not say that Jesus considered himself to be equal with God. He was said to not want to grasp or forcefully take any condition that would put himself on God's level.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:47 amScholars views are man's interpretation. Bible text supported by Bible text is what I prefer.onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:37 amAs you say, Phil.2:6 can be translated in two different ways. Our contention that it is to be translated as Christ did NOT have equality with God has equal validity in scholarly circles.
Phil 2:6 supported by Rev 1:8,17 and 18. Jesus the Almighty who is to come, died but made alive.
[Christ Jesus] "who, though he was in the form of God [Spirit] did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped." (Phil.2:6, Revised Standard Version) To "grasp" here has the meaning of to take forcefully, something he didn't have before. So THIS Bible text supports the idea that Jesus is not equal to God and he wouldn't even consider it.
1. Jesus in the "form of a servant," does it mean He is man or not?
2. Jesus in the "form of God," can you use the same logic or not? And why?
In heaven Jesus is SPIRIT, as God is, so he is in the form of God. (All spirit beings are not God.)
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
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Post #322No, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:01 pmHeavenCapbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:27 amWhere is Jesus when the Father said to Jesus, "therefore God"? Heaven or earth? (Heb 1:9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:43 amThis speaks of his life on earth and also in heaven. On earth he was a perfect MAN, in the form of humans.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:04 amHow do you interpret this phrase in Phil 2:6 and 7;onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:46 pmI have posted before that Philippians 2:6 does not say that Jesus considered himself to be equal with God. He was said to not want to grasp or forcefully take any condition that would put himself on God's level.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:47 amScholars views are man's interpretation. Bible text supported by Bible text is what I prefer.onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:37 am
As you say, Phil.2:6 can be translated in two different ways. Our contention that it is to be translated as Christ did NOT have equality with God has equal validity in scholarly circles.
Phil 2:6 supported by Rev 1:8,17 and 18. Jesus the Almighty who is to come, died but made alive.
[Christ Jesus] "who, though he was in the form of God [Spirit] did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped." (Phil.2:6, Revised Standard Version) To "grasp" here has the meaning of to take forcefully, something he didn't have before. So THIS Bible text supports the idea that Jesus is not equal to God and he wouldn't even consider it.
1. Jesus in the "form of a servant," does it mean He is man or not?
2. Jesus in the "form of God," can you use the same logic or not? And why?
In heaven Jesus is SPIRIT, as God is, so he is in the form of God. (All spirit beings are not God.)
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
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Post #323Lexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:01 pmHeavenCapbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:27 amWhere is Jesus when the Father said to Jesus, "therefore God"? Heaven or earth? (Heb 1:9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:43 amThis speaks of his life on earth and also in heaven. On earth he was a perfect MAN, in the form of humans.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:04 amHow do you interpret this phrase in Phil 2:6 and 7;onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:46 pmI have posted before that Philippians 2:6 does not say that Jesus considered himself to be equal with God. He was said to not want to grasp or forcefully take any condition that would put himself on God's level.
[Christ Jesus] "who, though he was in the form of God [Spirit] did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped." (Phil.2:6, Revised Standard Version) To "grasp" here has the meaning of to take forcefully, something he didn't have before. So THIS Bible text supports the idea that Jesus is not equal to God and he wouldn't even consider it.
1. Jesus in the "form of a servant," does it mean He is man or not?
2. Jesus in the "form of God," can you use the same logic or not? And why?
In heaven Jesus is SPIRIT, as God is, so he is in the form of God. (All spirit beings are not God.)
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
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Post #324No Jesus is not still on the earth. You are guessing, and your guess is off the mark.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:50 amLexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:01 pmHeavenCapbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:27 amWhere is Jesus when the Father said to Jesus, "therefore God"? Heaven or earth? (Heb 1:9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:43 amThis speaks of his life on earth and also in heaven. On earth he was a perfect MAN, in the form of humans.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:04 amHow do you interpret this phrase in Phil 2:6 and 7;onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:46 pm
I have posted before that Philippians 2:6 does not say that Jesus considered himself to be equal with God. He was said to not want to grasp or forcefully take any condition that would put himself on God's level.
[Christ Jesus] "who, though he was in the form of God [Spirit] did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped." (Phil.2:6, Revised Standard Version) To "grasp" here has the meaning of to take forcefully, something he didn't have before. So THIS Bible text supports the idea that Jesus is not equal to God and he wouldn't even consider it.
1. Jesus in the "form of a servant," does it mean He is man or not?
2. Jesus in the "form of God," can you use the same logic or not? And why?
In heaven Jesus is SPIRIT, as God is, so he is in the form of God. (All spirit beings are not God.)
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
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Post #325I've given you verses and lexicon definition of Bible words but only a mere denial from you.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:31 amNo Jesus is not still on the earth. You are guessing, and your guess is off the mark.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:50 amLexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:01 pmHeavenCapbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:27 amWhere is Jesus when the Father said to Jesus, "therefore God"? Heaven or earth? (Heb 1:9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:43 amThis speaks of his life on earth and also in heaven. On earth he was a perfect MAN, in the form of humans.
In heaven Jesus is SPIRIT, as God is, so he is in the form of God. (All spirit beings are not God.)
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
It's time for you to prove that Jesus is in heaven as you say at that time.
Any verses?
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Post #326He has been back in heaven since a month or so after his resurrection. Peter explained to the Jews: "This Jesus God resurrected...Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which you see and hear." (Acts 2:32,33)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:43 amI've given you verses and lexicon definition of Bible words but only a mere denial from you.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:31 amNo Jesus is not still on the earth. You are guessing, and your guess is off the mark.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:50 amLexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:01 pmHeavenCapbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:27 amWhere is Jesus when the Father said to Jesus, "therefore God"? Heaven or earth? (Heb 1:9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:43 am
This speaks of his life on earth and also in heaven. On earth he was a perfect MAN, in the form of humans.
In heaven Jesus is SPIRIT, as God is, so he is in the form of God. (All spirit beings are not God.)
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
It's time for you to prove that Jesus is in heaven as you say at that time.
Any verses?
"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens." (Hebrews 8:1, KJV) This was written not long after Jesus' resurrection.
"After he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places." (Hebrews 1:3b)
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Post #327So, Jesus is God, in what I colored red above?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:58 pmHe has been back in heaven since a month or so after his resurrection. Peter explained to the Jews: "This Jesus God resurrected...Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which you see and hear." (Acts 2:32,33)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:43 amI've given you verses and lexicon definition of Bible words but only a mere denial from you.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:31 amNo Jesus is not still on the earth. You are guessing, and your guess is off the mark.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:50 amLexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
It's time for you to prove that Jesus is in heaven as you say at that time.
Any verses?
"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens." (Hebrews 8:1, KJV) This was written not long after Jesus' resurrection.
"After he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places." (Hebrews 1:3b)
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Post #328No, of course not. It says that God resurrected Jesus.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:02 pmSo, Jesus is God, in what I colored red above?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:58 pmHe has been back in heaven since a month or so after his resurrection. Peter explained to the Jews: "This Jesus God resurrected...Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which you see and hear." (Acts 2:32,33)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:43 amI've given you verses and lexicon definition of Bible words but only a mere denial from you.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:31 amNo Jesus is not still on the earth. You are guessing, and your guess is off the mark.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:50 amLexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pmLexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
It's time for you to prove that Jesus is in heaven as you say at that time.
Any verses?
"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens." (Hebrews 8:1, KJV) This was written not long after Jesus' resurrection.
"After he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places." (Hebrews 1:3b)
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Post #329After resurrection, as Jesus goes to the Father, is He God or not?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:41 amNo, of course not. It says that God resurrected Jesus.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:02 pmSo, Jesus is God, in what I colored red above?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:58 pmHe has been back in heaven since a month or so after his resurrection. Peter explained to the Jews: "This Jesus God resurrected...Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which you see and hear." (Acts 2:32,33)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:43 amI've given you verses and lexicon definition of Bible words but only a mere denial from you.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:31 amNo Jesus is not still on the earth. You are guessing, and your guess is off the mark.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:50 amLexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pmThose "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:53 pm
Lexicon defined "fellows" in Heb 1:9 as partner, companion, participating in.
Are those partners in Luke 5:7 are in heaven also? (Same Greek word NT:3353 metochos)
NT:3353 metochos participating in; subst.: participant; companion, fellow, partaker, partner.
Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJV
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
It's time for you to prove that Jesus is in heaven as you say at that time.
Any verses?
"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens." (Hebrews 8:1, KJV) This was written not long after Jesus' resurrection.
"After he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places." (Hebrews 1:3b)
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Re: Jesus Christ has a God that he worships
Post #330He is not. It says clearly that God resurrected Jesus. So it isn't God who was dead. It was Jesus who was entirely dependent on "God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:08 pmAfter resurrection, as Jesus goes to the Father, is He God or not?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:41 amNo, of course not. It says that God resurrected Jesus.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:02 pmSo, Jesus is God, in what I colored red above?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:58 pmHe has been back in heaven since a month or so after his resurrection. Peter explained to the Jews: "This Jesus God resurrected...Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out this which you see and hear." (Acts 2:32,33)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:43 amI've given you verses and lexicon definition of Bible words but only a mere denial from you.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:31 amNo Jesus is not still on the earth. You are guessing, and your guess is off the mark.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:50 amLexicon defined (Heb 1:9)"hath annointed" as consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pmNo, the verse is just referring to the time that Jesus was on Earth. I already posted what I think in the previous posting. What is your point?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:53 amThey are they who stayed with Jesus on earth. Do that proves that "fellow" in verse 9 Jesus is not in heaven?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:51 pm
Those "partners" are those who stayed with him on earth and did the preaching work with him. They would much later be in heaven with him.
Consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, I believe the start of Jesus Messianic life.
And furnishing Jesus with powers necessary for its administration it means also at the start His Messianic life.
Therefore Jesus is still on earth. (Heb 1:9)
NT:5548 chrioo:
a. consecrating Jesus to the Messianic office, and furnishing him with powers necessary for its administration (see chrisma): Luke 4:18
b. enduing Christians with the gifts of the Holy Spirit 2 Cor 1:21
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database)
It's time for you to prove that Jesus is in heaven as you say at that time.
Any verses?
"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens." (Hebrews 8:1, KJV) This was written not long after Jesus' resurrection.
"After he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places." (Hebrews 1:3b)