The Shortest Way To The Truth

[OneJack]

The Shortest Way To The Truth

There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:

1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.

2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.

Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.

[OneJack]

You have to be shepherded and guided by the Lord ...

Indeed, unfortunately some are "shepherded and guided" by a FAKE Lord. You seem to be reluctant to answer the question but it is evident the answer is a demon/devil lied to you and your family. It is clear from your own testimony that his utterance did not come true. Mankind did not receive the "three pages" intended for them, thus it is clear you spoke to a demon who lied to you and your family, distancing you from the written word of the True God (YHWH /Yahweh).

Where have you ever seen anywhere in the pages of your bible [where you're only coming from] Satan claim the following narrative for himself:

"All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or the universe. I created all things, and I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go."

1. You explained that your so-called "Jesus" said with this own mouth that "three pages" of his utterances were to be "for mankind"
2. You yourself said that meant that "all" mankind were to have these (written) words throughout the "generations"
3. You admitted however that those very words, written down were "nowhere to be found".

CONCLUSION the words of your "Jesus" (point 1) were not fulfilled. Since the True God never purposes something that goes unfilled , He who spoke to you and your family could NOT have been the True God

You've nothing yet from God, how do you claim something on behalf of God [shaded in bold red] whom you've not yet spoken to?

Moving on....

You claim the bible canon is a "testimony" of humans? Is that correct? If not can you say in your own words what it is and why you think so?

When, where, and how did I say, verbatim, what you say I said about the bible canon, per se?

[JehovahsWitness]

When, where, and how did I say, verbatim, what you say I said about the bible canon, per se?

Here is your opportunity to say "vervatim" what you feel the bible is (please provide a supporting text from your spirit so-called "Jesus" if it said anything on the subject)

[JehovahsWitness]

CONCLUSION the words of your "Jesus" (point 1) were not fulfilled. Since the True God never purposes something that goes unfilled , He who spoke to you and your family could NOT have been the True God

.... how do you claim something on behalf of God [shaded in bold red] whom you've not yet spoken to?

Regardless of where I got the idea from, the bolded is either TRUE or FALSE,; You either agree or disagree with the bolded text (or possibly you don't know).
- If you don't know, you cannot comment since you have no idea if the statement is true or false.
- If you disagree I would be interested to hear you say so (and provide the supporting quotation verbatim from your spirit "Jesus" to that end).
- If you agree, what is your gripe?

[OneJack]

CONCLUSION the words of your "Jesus" (point 1) were not fulfilled. Since the True God never purposes something that goes unfilled , He who spoke to you and your family could NOT have been the True God

.... how do you claim something on behalf of God [shaded in bold red] whom you've not yet spoken to?

Regardless of where I got the idea from, the bolded is either TRUE or FALSE,; You either agree or disagree with the bolded text (or possibly you don't know).
- If you don't know, you cannot comment since you have no idea if the statement is true or false.
- If you disagree I would be interested to hear you say so (and provide the supporting quotation verbatim from your spirit "Jesus" to that end).
- If you agree, what is your gripe?

I’ve mentioned to you the things that we’ve heard and learned from the Lord regarding this matter that we discuss here.

[JehovahsWitness]

CONCLUSION the words of your "Jesus" (point 1) were not fulfilled. Since the True God never purposes something that goes unfilled , He who spoke to you and your family could NOT have been the True God

.... how do you claim something on behalf of God [shaded in bold red] whom you've not yet spoken to?

Regardless of where I got the idea from, the bolded is either TRUE or FALSE,; You either agree or disagree with the bolded text (or possibly you don't know).
- If you don't know, you cannot comment since you have no idea if the statement is true or false.
- If you disagree I would be interested to hear you say so (and provide the supporting quotation verbatim from your spirit "Jesus" to that end).
- If you agree, what is your gripe?

I’ve mentioned to you the things that we’ve heard and learned from the Lord regarding this matter that we discuss here.

Do you know when you are not answering questions? You, yourself objected to the bolded script. My reply was
Regardless of where I got the idea from, the bolded is either TRUE or FALSE,; You either agree or disagree with the bolded text (or possibly you don't know).
- If you don't know, you cannot comment since you have no idea if the statement is true or false.
- If you disagree I would be interested to hear you say so (and provide the supporting quotation verbatim from your spirit "Jesus" to that end).
- If you agree, what is your gripe?

Is there something in the above you do not understand?

[BruceLeiter]

[Replying to OneJack in post #302]

It seems to me, @OneJack and @JehovahsWitness, that both of you have something in common. You both believe in a one-Person God. However, if you objectively look at the Gospel of John without your prior assumptions about who God is, you will be driven to the conclusion that God is one God in three Persons and must then admit that you cannot figure God out completely. I know that such an admission requires humility, which is in short supply nowadays but is what we are called to have:

Jas 4:10  Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you. 

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #302]

It seems to me, @OneJack and @JehovahsWitness, that both of you have something in common. You both believe in a one-Person God. However, if you objectively look at the Gospel of John without your prior assumptions about who God is, you will be driven to the conclusion that God is one God in three Persons and must then admit that you cannot figure God out completely. I know that such an admission requires humility, which is in short supply nowadays but is what we are called to have:

Jas 4:10  Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you. 

Wake up Bruce, look unto Jesus by what and how Jesus exists and lives in His own realm, not by what you opine and learn from the bible, which is not Jesus.

[BruceLeiter]

[Replying to OneJack in post #308]

Sadly, @OneJack, if you don't trust in the true God-man, Jesus, of the Bible, who is present with all true believers, you will have to answer for your false ideas that someone taught you. I hope that you will see the light before it's too late.

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #308]

Sadly, @OneJack, if you don't trust in the true God-man, Jesus, of the Bible, who is present with all true believers, you will have to answer for your false ideas that someone taught you. I hope that you will see the light before it's too late.

Where in the Bible can we read that God and Jesus said people must come to the Bible to know God and His will, Bruce?

[BruceLeiter]

[Replying to OneJack in post #310]

@OneJack, I have to give it to you as the master of trick questions. Of course, as you know, there's no place in the Bible that God and Jesus said that, but you have to understand something your apparition didn't tell you, millions of Christians have experienced God's transforming power through his Word.

In my case, I had a lot of trouble with lust, and in reading through the Bible, God convicted me of my sin when I saw that Jesus equated adultery with lust.

Then, he led me to praise him with my mind for his creative power in making a beautiful woman. That praise in my mind took my attention off my selfish pleasure and onto him. In that way, he delivered me. I'm thankful. Such is God's power working through the Bible.