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What is the name above all names?

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Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?
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But if we use your interpretation then the highest name is Jesus. But we both know the highest name is YHWH.

It makes the Bible false.

My interpretation makes the Bible true and explains why it is OK to worship Jesus.
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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Wootah wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:32 pm
Mae von H wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:00 am [Replying to Wootah in post #1]

Are you thinking that the “name above all names” is just a word?
It's a word, YHWH, first mentioned at.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/2-4.htm#lexicon
YHWH is not even a word and has absolutely no meaning for us. Besides, it’s just what the Hebrews used (can’t even say “said” cause no one spoke it.) Other language groups used a different word for same Being.

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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Mae von H wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:10 am
Wootah wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:32 pm
Mae von H wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:00 am [Replying to Wootah in post #1]

Are you thinking that the “name above all names” is just a word?
It's a word, YHWH, first mentioned at.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/2-4.htm#lexicon
YHWH is not even a word and has absolutely no meaning for us. Besides, it’s just what the Hebrews used (can’t even say “said” cause no one spoke it.) Other language groups used a different word for same Being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragram ... of%20Songs.
According to Brown–Driver–Briggs, יְהֹוָה‎ (qere אֲדֹנָי‎) occurs 6,518 times, and יֱהֹוִה‎ (qere אֱלֹהִים‎) 305 times in the Masoretic Text. The first appearance of the Tetragrammaton is in the Book of Genesis 2:4. The only books it does not appear in are Ecclesiastes, the Book of Esther, and Song of Songs.
Some word.
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Wootah wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:00 am
Mae von H wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:10 am
Wootah wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:32 pm
Mae von H wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:00 am [Replying to Wootah in post #1]

Are you thinking that the “name above all names” is just a word?
It's a word, YHWH, first mentioned at.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/2-4.htm#lexicon
YHWH is not even a word and has absolutely no meaning for us. Besides, it’s just what the Hebrews used (can’t even say “said” cause no one spoke it.) Other language groups used a different word for same Being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragram ... of%20Songs.
According to Brown–Driver–Briggs, יְהֹוָה‎ (qere אֲדֹנָי‎) occurs 6,518 times, and יֱהֹוִה‎ (qere אֱלֹהִים‎) 305 times in the Masoretic Text. The first appearance of the Tetragrammaton is in the Book of Genesis 2:4. The only books it does not appear in are Ecclesiastes, the Book of Esther, and Song of Songs.
Some word.
Doesn’t make it a word. There are no vowels. If I string 4 consonants together and get someone to put it in a dictionary, still doesn’t make it a word.

YHWH has no meaning for anyone unless someone TELLS them what it’s SUPPOSED to mean.

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Mae von H wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:36 am
Wootah wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:00 am
Mae von H wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:10 am
Wootah wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:32 pm
Mae von H wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:00 am [Replying to Wootah in post #1]

Are you thinking that the “name above all names” is just a word?
It's a word, YHWH, first mentioned at.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/2-4.htm#lexicon
YHWH is not even a word and has absolutely no meaning for us. Besides, it’s just what the Hebrews used (can’t even say “said” cause no one spoke it.) Other language groups used a different word for same Being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragram ... of%20Songs.
According to Brown–Driver–Briggs, יְהֹוָה‎ (qere אֲדֹנָי‎) occurs 6,518 times, and יֱהֹוִה‎ (qere אֱלֹהִים‎) 305 times in the Masoretic Text. The first appearance of the Tetragrammaton is in the Book of Genesis 2:4. The only books it does not appear in are Ecclesiastes, the Book of Esther, and Song of Songs.
Some word.
Doesn’t make it a word. There are no vowels. If I string 4 consonants together and get someone to put it in a dictionary, still doesn’t make it a word.

YHWH has no meaning for anyone unless someone TELLS them what it’s SUPPOSED to mean.
OK we'll I am telling you it is the name of God.
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Re: What is the name above all names?

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[Replying to Wootah in post #125]

No, YHWH is not THEE name of God. It is only the handle given to the Hebrews. Other language groups were given a totally different sounding handle, appropriate for that language.

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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Wootah wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:50 am
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:12 am
Wootah wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:20 am
tam wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:17 pm
Wootah wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:07 pm [Replying to tam in post #104]

Any names above that that you can think of?
No.
YHWH? The first name in the Bible before everything gets named. Isn't that the name above all names?
Yes, indeed. YHWH's name is above all names.
And do you believe the Bible when it says Jesus was given the name above all names?
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
How could Jesus have the name above even his Father when all he does is to the glory of God the Father? Obviously the Father is in a position higher than Jesus, because all the glory goes to Him. The Father's name is above the name of Jesus Christ.

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:10 am
Wootah wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:50 am
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:12 am
Wootah wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:20 am
tam wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:17 pm
Wootah wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:07 pm [Replying to tam in post #104]

Any names above that that you can think of?
No.
YHWH? The first name in the Bible before everything gets named. Isn't that the name above all names?
Yes, indeed. YHWH's name is above all names.
And do you believe the Bible when it says Jesus was given the name above all names?
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
How could Jesus have the name above even his Father when all he does is to the glory of God the Father? Obviously the Father is in a position higher than Jesus, because all the glory goes to Him. The Father's name is above the name of Jesus Christ.
It's a good question. Just like how could God save a sinner like me.

Just read the Bible: Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name

It breaks my heart. From stone to flesh.
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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Mae von H wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:10 am [Replying to Wootah in post #125]

No, YHWH is not THEE name of God. It is only the handle given to the Hebrews. Other language groups were given a totally different sounding handle, appropriate for that language.
Pretty sure it is. Read the Bible. Also this forum assumes the Bible is true.
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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Peace to you Wootah,
Wootah wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:00 pm [Replying to tam in post #120]

But if we use your interpretation then the highest name is Jesus.


But I am not using an interpretation. The verse itself NAMES the name that is the highest name. It is in the very verse that you have quoted to me:

Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of [Jesus] every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

But we both know the highest name is YHWH.

It makes the Bible false.
Why could it not simply mean that you have misunderstood?

Paul has previously stated that when he said 'everything' was placed under Christ, 'EVERYTHING' did not include God (who is the One who placed everything under Christ.) Applying that same reasoning to these verses from the very same author, when Christ is given (by God) the name that is above 'every' name, that 'EVERY' does not include the name of God (YHWH).




Peace again to you.
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