The Shortest Way To The Truth
There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:
1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.
2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.
Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.
The Shortest Way To The Truth
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Post #11If he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"OneJack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:00 amYes, He did, and that’s the reason why the Lord taught us to call on Him whenever we encounter Satan and his demons. The Lord didn’t teach us to use the bible in driving Satan and his demons away.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 3:37 amThe question is, did he ever recall that encounter? Or is he another spirit.OneJack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 3:25 amThe Lord Jesus empowered us to cast Satan and his demons for more or less 2 weeks. He didn’t point us to the bible but to Himself alone.
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?
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Post #12Neither have you heard anything yet nor witnessed Jesus talking to Satan, have you?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:06 amIf he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"OneJack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:00 amYes, He did, and that’s the reason why the Lord taught us to call on Him whenever we encounter Satan and his demons. The Lord didn’t teach us to use the bible in driving Satan and his demons away.
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?
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Post #13so you are denying you read about Immanuel in a book but you had a supernatural experience with an unseen intelligent being whose voice you heard?
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Post #14First of all, I do not deny reading the biblical passages about Immanuel, and I believe that Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:21 become absolute when the Lord taught us that He is Immanuel.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:57 amso you are denying you read about Immanuel in a book but you had a supernatural experience with an unseen intelligent being whose voice you heard?
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Post #15I've read the written passage, Jesus' encounter with the devil.OneJack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:14 amNeither have you heard anything yet nor witnessed Jesus talking to Satan, have you?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:06 amIf he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?
But why you didn't answer the question?
Here again, if he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?
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Post #16Jesus didn’t chose to always say ‘it’s written’ every time He encountered the devil (Matt 8:28-32; Mark 5:1-13, and Luke 8:26-33).Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Feb 08, 2026 2:51 amI've read the written passage, Jesus' encounter with the devil.OneJack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:14 amNeither have you heard anything yet nor witnessed Jesus talking to Satan, have you?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:06 amIf he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?
But why you didn't answer the question?
Here again, if he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?
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Post #17How did you learn that "the Lord taught us that He is Immanuel"? Did you hear a voice from a spirit or did you READ that the the Lord taught us that He is Immanuel in a book?
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Post #18We heard through Him through His manifested voice.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:51 pmHow did you learn that "the Lord taught us that He is Immanuel"? Did you hear a voice from a spirit or did you READ that the the Lord taught us that He is Immanuel in a book?
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Post #19But why in that direct encounter with the devil (the ranking leader Satan), the true Jesus relied to "what is written?"OneJack wrote: ↑Sun Feb 08, 2026 3:45 amJesus didn’t chose to always say ‘it’s written’ every time He encountered the devil (Matt 8:28-32; Mark 5:1-13, and Luke 8:26-33).Capbook wrote: ↑Sun Feb 08, 2026 2:51 amI've read the written passage, Jesus' encounter with the devil.
But why you didn't answer the question?
Here again, if he did recall, why he chose to always say "it is written?"
Do your Jesus mean he was wrong when he relied to what is written?
As you believe that he is the most powerful Almighty God, why not use his power instead of what was written?
Verses you quote, speaks of the demons, followers of the devil (leader Satan) not Satan himself, different scenario.
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Post #20The Lord needs nothing but Himself, alone, to punish Satan and his devil, but you opined He depended on the written words in the bible instead to deal with the latter. Jesus, in this context, employed self-control in dealing with Satan while He was still in the flesh.Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 3:15 amBut why in that direct encounter with the devil (the ranking leader Satan), the true Jesus relied to "what is written?"OneJack wrote: ↑Sun Feb 08, 2026 3:45 amJesus didn’t chose to always say ‘it’s written’ every time He encountered the devil (Matt 8:28-32; Mark 5:1-13, and Luke 8:26-33).
As you believe that he is the most powerful Almighty God, why not use his power instead of what was written?
Verses you quote, speaks of the demons, followers of the devil (leader Satan) not Satan himself, different scenario.

