I saw this movie StarWars

[LillSnopp]

I just saw this movie StarWars.

And its really bad. I mean, first episode was real garbage, some sort of joke movie (i suspect the directors didnt take it seriously), and then the second one seemed more serious, but poor acting.

And now this, its suppose to be the last one if i understood it correctly, and i rarely see such poor acting in a movie. Seriously. Perhaps the actors are new to all of this, i saw a negro which i also seen in Pulp Fiction (one of the few i recognized), and he is pretty good in that movie (Pulp Fiction that is). But in this one, cheeezes, i say.

In any case, perhaps you guys seen this to? I remember the original movies, they where pretty good, but what is this ?

[Squall]

Ok first palpatine:
There's actually only one real side of the force. The dark side, the light side everyone mentions is actually really a neutral state of the force. Ok, the dark side of the force is evil. Palpatine was created from pure evil (remember his story?), thus causing an imbalance in the force. The force wanting to straighten itself out created anikin (vader). Remember anikins mother saying he had no father? He was created by the force to cancel out the imbalance. Eliminating the evil to set everything neutral again, got it? Evil = bad

I remember anakins mother saying he had no father so I was assuming some sort of virgin birth type thing like Jesus. I told my friends and they all said I was goofy and she was raped by some owner with her being a slave and all. I was right, cool to know that. I gotta wonder if Anakin was created by the force to balance everything out (which he did do eventually when he chucked the sidious off that catwalk) why was he so damn weak? Strong in the force no doubt but prone to arrogance, selfishnes, possesiveness and a lust for power. It seemed like we was destined for evil.

Could you please explain how Palatine was created. I never heard his origins.

[Regular_Guy]

I remember anakins mother saying he had no father so I was assuming some sort of virgin birth type thing like Jesus. I told my friends and they all said I was goofy and she was raped by some owner with her being a slave and all. I was right, cool to know that. I gotta wonder if Anakin was created by the force to balance everything out (which he did do eventually when he chucked the sidious off that catwalk) why was he so damn weak? Strong in the force no doubt but prone to arrogance, selfishnes, possesiveness and a lust for power. It seemed like we was destined for evil.

Could you please explain how Palatine was created. I never heard his origins.

In the Episode III during the Blitzball-like Opera scene Palpatine tells Aniken the
"Tragic tale of Darth Plageis" It was obvious to 'us' that Plageis was Sidious's old Master.
Palpatine tell's anny that through the darkside it's possible to create and save lives.
Plageis created Sidious through the darkside, which created an imbalance in the force, leading to the force's creation of Anakin to "bring balance" by cancelling out Sidious (think of the matrix's Neo and anti-neo aka agent smith).

[Squall]

In the Episode III during the Blitzball-like Opera scene Palpatine tells Aniken the
"Tragic tale of Darth Plageis" It was obvious to 'us' that Plageis was Sidious's old Master.
Palpatine tell's anny that through the darkside it's possible to create and save lives.
Plageis created Sidious through the darkside, which created an imbalance in the force, leading to the force's creation of Anakin to "bring balance" by cancelling out Sidious (think of the matrix's Neo and anti-neo aka agent smith).

I thought he might have been talking about his master until he said that Plageis taught his aprentice everything he knew and then his aprentice killed him in his sleep. Later Palpatine told Anakin they could figure out how to create and save lives like Plageis which led me to believe that he didn't know how to do that and therefore could not have been Plageis' aprentice since the aprentice supposedly knew everything Plageis knew. Or does he indeed know how to do it and was just lieing to Anakin to get him to join the darkside without having to actually save Padme and allow this source of good to remain in Anakins life? Also does this life creating power have anything to do with Sidous' clone body jumping in the books after the films?

BTW I thought it looked like they were watching blitzball too

[Regular_Guy]

I thought he might have been talking about his master until he said that Plageis taught his aprentice everything he knew and then his aprentice killed him in his sleep. Later Palpatine told Anakin they could figure out how to create and save lives like Plageis which led me to believe that he didn't know how to do that and therefore could not have been Plageis' aprentice since the aprentice supposedly knew everything Plageis knew. Or does he indeed know how to do it and was just lieing to Anakin to get him to join the darkside without having to actually save Padme and allow this source of good to remain in Anakins life? Also does this life creating power have anything to do with Sidous' clone body jumping in the books after the films?

BTW I thought it looked like they were watching blitzball too

It was assumed sidious killed plageis before truly understanding the life creating power. Basically yes he was taught, only he didn't master the technique. He did pretended to know and did the old bait and switch on anakin. Sidious also thinks he knows the way to immortality. Not so
The only ones shown to have this ability are quigon, yoda, obi-wan, and anakin (after he returns to the JEDI. in epy 6)
Anakin was always meant to have some good in him. To fufill the prophecy and bring balance to the force. In epy 6, when yoda sends Luke to fight vader and the emperor, yoda know's Luke can't win(just like when yoda told Obi-wan he couldn't fight the emperor). Yoda bet's that the remaining goodness in vader will surface and the two can sort of team up on the emperor. In epy 6 vader tell's luke that he's really powerful and will someday beat the emperor "remember *he has foreseen it*"
So the emperor seeing the threat that is LUKE let's down his guard and then the title makes sense..."Return of the Jedi" Anakin takes it to the emperor and they both die. Balance is restored.
You mentioned the books? Everything outside of the movies (with the exception of the cartoon I think) is referred to as the Expanded Universe. I wouldn't put to much into it. I mean it isn't cannon. George lucas said the movies come first. Now with the release of episode 3, the clone of sidious makes very little sense. ( I won't tell how but If you wanted I would )
**Interesting tidbit**
Sidious was dissappointed with Anakin after Mustafar. He had great hopes for him to one day be more powerful than himself and they were dashed. Because of Vader's artificial limbs he can't use force lighting and his true potential is never realized.

[Squall]

I was wondering why Sidious told Yoda that Anakin would be more powerful than both of them and he still never mastered force lightning, and how Anakin supposedly had more midoclorians than Yoda yet never surpased Sidous. Thanks for clearing that up. Now I shall go play Knights of the Old Republic become a sith and kill my master like Anakin couldnt do without getting Sidous from behind while he was busy

[MagusYanam]

Heh heh... KotOR isn't really a good measure for the movies (especially Episodes I, II and III), since it's so much better in dialogue and character development, if not in special effects.

But you really get an appreciation for how puny Luke and Han Solo were when you're doing the gunner mini-game, for example. I mean, come on: they had all this computer-aided targeting equipment and all Revan gets is a puny little paint-on crosshair. They had two gun turrets and still had trouble with four TIE fighters. The Ebon Hawk only has one gun turret and Revan has to fight six fighters at a time, usually.

And I've never seen C-3P0 come anywhere near as useful or as entertaining as HK-47 is on a routine basis.