Rationalism.

[Benson]

"But when he, the spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak; and he will disclose to you what is to come." (John 16:13)

"Sanctify them through thy [The Father's] truth; thy word is truth." (John 17:17)

Rather than using tradition, analogy, extra dimensional perception, intuitive feelings, specious nouveou, mutual contradictions, and nonmodeled authority, Science today seeks to be based upon human observation and the rationale of logic. The logic is either deductive by calculation, or is inductive by implication.

Rather than describing the workings of Science as the basis for truth, The Bible states God's Word is truth as it is conveyed into human consciousness by The Holy Spirit. John 16:13 describe what Science cannot do:

1.) "He the spirit of truth comes."
Science is not an entity which comes, but potentially exists within the mechinations of human sentience.

2.) "He will guide you into all truth."
Science only demands through deduction or suggests through implication. Science does not guide as does wisdom from a principle. Science does not address all truth, but only what is known from the human physical senses. Science exists not of itself, but only by means of tools giving measurements and by the logic of analysis.

3.) "For he will not speak on his own initiative."
Science speaks only upon the presence of its own derived data. Science itself does not act.

4.) "But whatever he hears."
Science is not sentient upon hearing anything.

5.) "He will speak."
Science itself has no voice apart from human thought.

6.) "He will disclose to you what will come."
Science can only predict certain specific actions of observed matter, but cannot accurately predict future human, earthly, or cosmic events.

"The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, temperance.". (Gal. 5:22)

Science neither pursues, identifies, nor produces any of these human aspects which are essential for the integrity and continuation of mankind.

"God has sent forth the spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, 'Abba Father!'" (Gal. 4:6)

Science has no Father in heaven, and systematically seeks only itself.

Science is based upon the Realm of Satan, because it encompasses the knowledge of both good and evil by denying that distinction. Using Science, humans remain unable to measure and control good and evil, which are the undeniable outcomes of all human pursuits.

[Tcg]

The application of knowledge is called "technology."

Well, let's take a look at what technology is.

Technology, the application of scientific knowledge to the practical aims of human life or, as it is sometimes phrased, to the change and manipulation of the human environment.

https://www.britannica.com/technology/technology

So yes, carpentry is "the application of scientific knowledge" as has already been established.


Tcg

[Benson]

The application of knowledge is called "technology."

Well, let's take a look at what technology is.

Technology, the application of scientific knowledge to the practical aims of human life or, as it is sometimes phrased, to the change and manipulation of the human environment.

https://www.britannica.com/technology/technology

So yes, carpentry is "the application of scientific knowledge" as has already been established.


Tcg

There is no statement or evidence directly from the Text of Scripture which says Jesus applied Science to perform technology. The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

Being God, He did not need to experiment or need to find data. Jesus explained and accomplished things only by way of Old Testament precedent and from how The Father instructed Him, not by making His own conclusions.

"As the Father said to me, so I speak." John 12:50.

Because we have statements like John 12:50 here, which we can either accept or try to argue with, we can understand how Jesus did things.

[Tcg]

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

We agree there. The relevance of this statement remains a mystery, however.


Tcg

[Benson]

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

We agree there. The relevance of this statement remains a mystery, however.

Tcg

The relevance of this statement is clear.

[Tcg]

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

We agree there. The relevance of this statement remains a mystery, however.

Tcg

The relevance of this statement is clear.

Then it should be easy for you to explain its relevance. What have you?


Tcg

[Athetotheist]

From where do you personally obtain the information to know about anything? Popular thought? Your eyes? Your imagination about what seems likely or possible? From somebody you trust?

Anywhere?

I try to get my information from a number of sources, not just from one book.

[Benson]

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

We agree there. The relevance of this statement remains a mystery, however.

Tcg

The relevance of this statement is clear.

Then it should be easy for you to explain its relevance. What have you?


Tcg

The corect relevance of Science to God is to bring His name and actions into awareness and worship, rather than to have Science be used to replace God. God is to be pursued and endlessly referenced in all things, Science is not to be used to distract from God.

In fact, God will show you how to use Science.

[Tcg]

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

We agree there. The relevance of this statement remains a mystery, however.

Tcg

The relevance of this statement is clear.

Then it should be easy for you to explain its relevance. What have you?


Tcg

The corect relevance of Science to God...

I didn't ask about the relevance of science to God. I asked about the relevance of your statement as follows:

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

Tcg

[Benson]

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

We agree there. The relevance of this statement remains a mystery, however.

Tcg

The relevance of this statement is clear.

Then it should be easy for you to explain its relevance. What have you?


Tcg

The corect relevance of Science to God...

I didn't ask about the relevance of science to God. I asked about the relevance of your statement as follows:

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

Tcg

Using Brittanica.com to state the carpentry of Jesus was technologically scientific is not valid. Omniscient and Omnipotent God does not need the operation of science to do anything He wants.

[Tcg]

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

We agree there. The relevance of this statement remains a mystery, however.

Tcg

The relevance of this statement is clear.

Then it should be easy for you to explain its relevance. What have you?


Tcg

The corect relevance of Science to God...

I didn't ask about the relevance of science to God. I asked about the relevance of your statement as follows:

The Brittanica.com definition of technology does not come from The Bible.

Tcg

Using Brittanica.com to state the carpentry of Jesus was technologically scientific is not valid. Omniscient and Omnipotent God does not need the operation of science to do anything He wants.

You stated that Jesus' carpentry involved the use of technology. I agreed and explained exactly what technology involves. Are you now suggesting your claim was fallacious?


Tcg