Bag-Of-Hammers wrote:joeyknuccione wrote:Let's examine the Quran and see if it can be proven to be the actual word of Allah, or prove the existence of Allah.
muhammad rasullah has offered some evidence, that if proven correct, to me at least would be very powerful proof for the Quran's claims...
muhammad rasullah wrote:
So what you are searching for is proof that the knowledge in the quran man could not have come up with himself. Okay I will consent to that.
In the Qur'an, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago at a time when the science of astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in the following terms:
And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)
The word "heaven," as stated in the verse above, is used in various places in the Qur'an. It is referring to space and the wider universe. Here again, the word is used with this meaning, stating that the universe "expands." The Arabic word "moosiaaoona" in the term "inna lamoosiaaoona," translated into English as "it is We Who are steadily expanding it", comes from the verb "evsea," meaning "to expand." The prefix "la" emphasises the following name or title and adds a sense of "to a great extent." This expression therefore means "We expand the sky or the universe to a great extent." This is the very conclusion that science has reached today.
How could this have been known at the time of the prophet over 1400 years ago? It is there and science has proven this a a fact. So now you have to answer the question in a reasonable and logical way with proof as to where else this knowledge could've come from? considering that knowone knew this to be true.
The link is given and you can read more about it yourself...
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_02.html
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The only thing I need to know about the koran is that it says that Jesus was not the messiah, or son of God, but a false prophet that was never crucified. Muhammad is false. Islam is antichrist in nature and Allah is Satan.
When you make statements you should then provide evidence for such statements or claims. The Quran does not say Jesus wasn't the messiah but it in fact says the opposite 3:45 (Y. Ali) Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
The word christ is a latinized version of Messiah, the arabic actually says al-ma-see-hu meaing the Messiah. The Quran does not say that Jesus was a false prophet but it says the opposite;
4:171 (Y. Ali) O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth.
Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
The Quran says that Jesus was a prophet, apostle and messenger of Allah. you are right the Quran does say that Jesus was never crucified. But how does that make him a false prophet?
The prophet Muhammad spoke the truth. Jesus was not God nor the son of God nor was he crucified. Jesus was a servant and messenger of Allah sent to the children of Israel his message was not meant to be forever Jesus knew that there was another Prophet and Messenger to come after him. Which he speaks of in John 16. Jesus never claimed to be God nor the son of God in the literal way which many christians see it. According to the bible God has got sons by the tons.
And also there is no such thing as an anti-christ.
Bismillahir rahmaanir Raheem \"In The Name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful\"