Is it easy to prove Allah exists?
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Is it easy to prove Allah exists?
Post #1Kindly, help me to convert to Islam by proving that Allah exists.
Post #41
It isn't Wolands belief that Mr. Bolt is god, he simply has proven using your idea of logic that he is god. The curious thing is that in this post you agree that Bolt is god, but if Bolt is god as you have agreed to then that means that Allah can not be god and Mohammed can not be a true prophet. By your own logic if you can't find fault in his logic then it must be true.Response: And once again, your own belief that Usain Bolt is God supports the fact that the universe was created by intelligent design, as Usain Bolt is an intelligent being. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post #43
Oh...Fatihah wrote: Response: And once again, your own belief that Usain Bolt is God supports the fact that the universe was created by intelligent design, as Usain Bolt is an intelligent being. Thanks for the clarification.
Are you actually a Muslim whose arguments have degenerated to this (very) low point, or were you a non-Muslim troll all along? Perhaps a Muslim troll, fishing for reactions? Either way, it's sad.
If you've actually firmly decided to stoop this low in your fallacies and lies or if you are actually as incapable of reason and logic as each of your many posts suggests, I'm afraid I must refuse to continue "debating" with you (it's more like debating at you).
But first:
"Once again, as supported by your inability to find fault in your own logic proving that Usain Bolt is God, we can see that Usain is the true God, not Allah, as demonstrated by your inability to run as fast as a car in third gear. When you try to outrun a horse and you fail, you will know that Usain is a true God."
-Woland
Post #44
Response: It is his belief that Mr. Bolt is God because he clearly stated it. His example is also not like mine as explained in post 31. And since you failed to quote where I've agreed that Bolt is God, then your own words support the fact that your logic is flawed as you failed to support it with evidence. And with your repeated trolling and speaking against the existence of Allah, it is clear that you believe the same absurdity as Woland, in which unintelligence creates intelligence but too ashamed to defend your belief. No worries. If I believed something so irrational, I would be ashamed too.Wyvern wrote:It isn't Wolands belief that Mr. Bolt is god, he simply has proven using your idea of logic that he is god. The curious thing is that in this post you agree that Bolt is god, but if Bolt is god as you have agreed to then that means that Allah can not be god and Mohammed can not be a true prophet. By your own logic if you can't find fault in his logic then it must be true.Response: And once again, your own belief that Usain Bolt is God supports the fact that the universe was created by intelligent design, as Usain Bolt is an intelligent being. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post #45
Response: The simple fact that you believe Usain Bolt is God discredts you from ever being acknowledged as one with rational thinking.Woland wrote:Oh...Fatihah wrote: Response: And once again, your own belief that Usain Bolt is God supports the fact that the universe was created by intelligent design, as Usain Bolt is an intelligent being. Thanks for the clarification.
Are you actually a Muslim whose arguments have degenerated to this (very) low point, or were you a non-Muslim troll all along? Perhaps a Muslim troll, fishing for reactions? Either way, it's sad.
If you've actually firmly decided to stoop this low in your fallacies and lies or if you are actually as incapable of reason and logic as each of your many posts suggests, I'm afraid I must refuse to continue "debating" with you (it's more like debating at you).
But first:
"Once again, as supported by your inability to find fault in your own logic proving that Usain Bolt is God, we can see that Usain is the true God, not Allah, as demonstrated by your inability to run as fast as a car in third gear. When you try to outrun a horse and you fail, you will know that Usain is a true God."
-Woland
Post #46
"The absurdity continues, as we both know that I have never stated that the man-God Usain Bolt was a human in anything else than his earthly shape since he is obviously a God in the body of a man, but even you know that Muhammad was only a human, not Usain Bolt. Your continual dodging of the challenge of running as fast as the God Usain Bolt supports the fact that no mere human can run as fast as Bolt. Thus once again it is demonstrated that Usain Bolt is God, not Allah as your ideology suggests."Fatihah wrote: Your analogy however is trying to prove whether it's possible to do what you already acknowledge a human (Usain Bolt) can do. Thus your analogy is flawed and once again only further demonstrates that the proof that Allah exist can not be disproven.
Are you ever going to present your "proof" that Muhammad was a true prophet in formal logic, or are you scared of the similarities between the logic above and your own? If you were confident in your logic you would have no problem doing this, but as we can all see, you would apparently rather be stuck in an endless loop of nonsense.
-Woland
Post #47
Response: Another dodge from the challenge. Your refusal to take the challenge and show that the challenge is possible is evidence to support the fact that it's not possible. Otherwise, you would have taken the challenge. Adding the fact that you believe Usain Bolt is God, your credibility has already been shown invalid.Woland wrote:"The absurdity continues, as we both know that I have never stated that the man-God Usain Bolt was a human in anything else than his earthly shape since he is obviously a God in the body of a man, but even you know that Muhammad was only a human, not Usain Bolt. Your continual dodging of the challenge of running as fast as the God Usain Bolt supports the fact that no mere human can run as fast as Bolt. Thus once again it is demonstrated that Usain Bolt is God, not Allah as your ideology suggests."Fatihah wrote: Your analogy however is trying to prove whether it's possible to do what you already acknowledge a human (Usain Bolt) can do. Thus your analogy is flawed and once again only further demonstrates that the proof that Allah exist can not be disproven.
Are you ever going to present your "proof" that Muhammad was a true prophet in formal logic, or are you scared of the similarities between the logic above and your own? If you were confident in your logic you would have no problem doing this, but as we can all see, you would apparently rather be stuck in an endless loop of nonsense.
-Woland
Post #48
You agreed that Bolt is god when you used him as proof that the universe was created by ID. Were you lying when you made this statement?Response: It is his belief that Mr. Bolt is God because he clearly stated it. His example is also not like mine as explained in post 31. And since you failed to quote where I've agreed that Bolt is God, then your own words support the fact that your logic is flawed as you failed to support it with evidence. And with your repeated trolling and speaking against the existence of Allah, it is clear that you believe the same absurdity as Woland, in which unintelligence creates intelligence but too ashamed to defend your belief. No worries. If I believed something so irrational, I would be ashamed too.
If you do not believe Bolt is god why would he be a support your argument for creation? One way or another you are lying about something. If you believe Bolt is god you have been lying all along about being muslim. If you don't believe Bolt is god then you are lying about him being a support for your argument.Fatihah wrote:
Response: And once again, your own belief that Usain Bolt is God supports the fact that the universe was created by intelligent design, as Usain Bolt is an intelligent being. Thanks for the clarification.
I have never spoken out against the existance of allah, but what is it that makes this particular god any better than the countless other gods out there. You can not disprove any other god exists just like you can not disprove your god of choice. Personally if I had to choose a god to worship I think I'd pick a more fun one than allah, like Bacchus.
Post #49
->Fatihah wrote: Response: Another dodge from the challenge. Your refusal to take the challenge and show that the challenge is possible is evidence to support the fact that it's not possible. Otherwise, you would have taken the challenge. Adding the fact that you believe Usain Bolt is God, your credibility has already been shown invalid.
"Response: Another dodge from the challenges of showing your flawed logic and finding a mere human who can run as fast as the man-God Usain. Your refusal to take the challenge and show that the challenge of running as fast as Usain is possible is evidence to support the fact that it's not possible for a mere human. Otherwise, you would have taken the challenge. Adding the fact that you believe Allah is God, your credibility has already been shown invalid."
Are you really a Muslim?
If not, why do you think that posting hundreds of irrelevant comments on Internet forums is worth your time?
If so, are you so far gone that you honestly can't see why your logic fails despite seeing a replica of it and seeing why it fails?
Are you so scared of putting your flawed logic "proving" that Allah is God in P1 P2 C format that you will avoid it at all costs? You know what will happen if you repeat your "logic" in a concise and structured way, don't you? Even you will be able to see how illogical and delusional it is. I'm almost 100% certain that you will never do it. More excuses and pointless taunts as you make your usual escape while being noticed by everyone are what I expect.
Are you so immature and childish that you absolutely must resort to trolling internet forums with lies, fallacies and incredibly flawed logic, making endless ridiculous claims and thinking this constitutes debate?
I can't see you not being banned within the week, as you are obviously not up to par with the standards required of the members of this forum.
Bon voyage!
-Woland
Post #50
In this thread, I have not been challenged to do anything, so this post cannot be called a dodge of any challenge.
As such, I now challenge Fatihah to establish his argument in the following manner:
Premise 1:
Proof of premise.
Premise 2:
Proof of premise.
...
Premise N:
Proof of premise.
Conclusion:
Outline of how it logically follows, if necessary.
This structure is necessary as Fatihah has not outlined logically his argument, and it is, as of yet, incoherent.
As such, I now challenge Fatihah to establish his argument in the following manner:
Premise 1:
Proof of premise.
Premise 2:
Proof of premise.
...
Premise N:
Proof of premise.
Conclusion:
Outline of how it logically follows, if necessary.
This structure is necessary as Fatihah has not outlined logically his argument, and it is, as of yet, incoherent.
