The virgin birth of Christ is borrowed but why?
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The virgin birth of Christ is borrowed but why?
Post #1There is other place Islam could have gotten the virgin birth story but from Christianity. But why would thy borrow that and not the rest of Chrisitanity?
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Re: The virgin birth of Christ is borrowed but why?
Post #11Yeah and the Babylonian god Marduk was also said to be born of a virgin. By the Christian era that idea was already ancient. Not opinion... historical fact.Ooberman wrote:Burninglight wrote: There is other place Islam could have gotten the virgin birth story but from Christianity. But why would thy borrow that and not the rest of Chrisitanity?
BurningLight, you are aware that Jesus wasn't the first or last "Virgin Birth Myth".
In fact, in Pre-Columbia Mexico, the Mayans had a "Vanguard of the Supreme Duality". God's Son, born of a virgin, etc...
I appears then that Christianity has borrowed from older traditions. I won't hold it against them. It's a minor point with no real importance.
Please do not ask me to provide evidence of what I claim. I have no interest in persuading anyone to believe as I do.
Jew, Christian and Muslim... all equal in G-d's eye.
Jew, Christian and Muslim... all equal in G-d's eye.
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Re: The virgin birth of Christ is borrowed but why?
Post #12The Assyrian and Babylonian concept of origins expressed procreation first in “relationships between gods and goddesses resulting in other gods and goddesses," such as Ea and Damkina assisted by Apsu giving birth to Marduk. The Akkadian “Creation Epic�, the most likely parallel to the Biblical virgin birth, describes the birth of Marduk in this way: “Ea, having overheard the plan of the primordial deities to destroy the other gods, deceived Apsu and Mummu and put them to death. ‘Ea, his triumph over his enemies secured, in his sacred chamber in profound peace he rested.’ (ANET, p. 61, lines 74—75.) Then he took over the place which Apsu had used for his cult.� It was here that Marduk, the “most potent and wisest of gods� was created in the heart of Apsu and “He who begot him was Ea, his father...�Jacob Simonsky wrote:Yeah and the Babylonian god Marduk was also said to be born of a virgin. By the Christian era that idea was already ancient. Not opinion... historical fact.Ooberman wrote:Burninglight wrote: There is other place Islam could have gotten the virgin birth story but from Christianity. But why would thy borrow that and not the rest of Chrisitanity?
BurningLight, you are aware that Jesus wasn't the first or last "Virgin Birth Myth".
In fact, in Pre-Columbia Mexico, the Mayans had a "Vanguard of the Supreme Duality". God's Son, born of a virgin, etc...
I appears then that Christianity has borrowed from older traditions. I won't hold it against them. It's a minor point with no real importance.
If you look at the stories in Greek mythology (Mitra, Horus) and even in Hinduism They don't really line up with Christianity.
There was a virgin birth in the OT but virgin means a young maiden and not that she didn't have sex to get conceive. The NT makes it clear that Mary conceived without human male intervention nor was Jesus sire by God