Allah is Satan and Mohammad was jealous of Christianity

[VermilionUK]

Taken from: http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... hp?t=12279

Muhammad wrote the koran in response to Judiasm and Christianity. He was jealous and wanted all the attiontion and praise, so he annointed himself as the one to be worshopped. Him and Allah(Satan). He would not humble himself in light of the truth. When his followers are confronted with the truth they act out as Muhammad would do. They turn into homicidal crybabies. Everyone that worshops Islam are worshopping the epitome of evil.

Question for debate: Is there any evidence to suggest that this (or any of this) is true?

[Goat]

You just answered yourself in your reply, brother.

Any translation, into another language, takes on the original language intent.

On the contrary.. Any translation from one language to another takes on the flavor of the translators bias.

Translation is interpretation.. and that is why CHristian translations of the Tanakh will have more of a 'Jesus colored Glasses' feel than Jewish ones.

As usual, you provide yet another unreferenced opinion.

ANd your response was referenced exactly how?? Perhaps you can provide evidence that 'the translation give the intent of the original language'.

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Taken from: http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... hp?t=12279

Muhammad wrote the koran in response to Judiasm and Christianity. He was jealous and wanted all the attiontion and praise, so he annointed himself as the one to be worshopped. Him and Allah(Satan). He would not humble himself in light of the truth. When his followers are confronted with the truth they act out as Muhammad would do. They turn into homicidal crybabies. Everyone that worshops Islam are worshopping the epitome of evil.

Question for debate: Is there any evidence to suggest that this (or any of this) is true?

He was jealous of God, or anyone else that anyone could potentially worshop over him. He was a clingy crybaby that couldn't humble himself in the light of the truth. Terrorists play out the very nature of Muhammad. A murdering tyrant that absolutely MUST have control over people. That was his motive, or inspiration of the Koran. He needed to lie about Christ in the effort to gain the love of the world.

[Apple Pie]

You just answered yourself in your reply, brother.

Any translation, into another language, takes on the original language intent.

On the contrary.. Any translation from one language to another takes on the flavor of the translators bias.

Translation is interpretation.. and that is why CHristian translations of the Tanakh will have more of a 'Jesus colored Glasses' feel than Jewish ones.

As usual, you provide yet another unreferenced opinion.

ANd your response was referenced exactly how?? Perhaps you can provide evidence that 'the translation give the intent of the original language'.

We can always back up our assertions, brother.

History has shown that you, cannot.

You can only assert your unreferenced opinion.

Here is a classic example of precisely how Allah has been transposed into the Arabic Bible to mean the same exact intent as the original…


لأَنَّه� هكَذَا أَحَبَّ الله� الْعَالَمَ حَتَّى بَذَلَ ابْنَه� الْوَح�يدَ، ل�كَيْ لاَ يَهْل�كَ ك�لّ� مَنْ ي�ؤْم�ن� ب�ه�، بَلْ تَك�ون� لَه� الْحَيَاة� الأَبَد�يَّة�.


John 3.16 For Allah so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Now…

If you know anything about Islam (which is doubtful) and what they believe to be true regarding their god “allah�, then you know that they vehemently deny that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of Allah….and yet this is precisely what is applied to the Allah in the Holy Bible.

This is simply irrefutable evidence that the “allah� of the Koran, that Muslims worship, is NOT the Allah that has been translated in the Holy Bible.

This further demonstrates, that once again, you don’t have a clue as to what you assert.

[Goat]

You just answered yourself in your reply, brother.

Any translation, into another language, takes on the original language intent.

On the contrary.. Any translation from one language to another takes on the flavor of the translators bias.

Translation is interpretation.. and that is why CHristian translations of the Tanakh will have more of a 'Jesus colored Glasses' feel than Jewish ones.

As usual, you provide yet another unreferenced opinion.

ANd your response was referenced exactly how?? Perhaps you can provide evidence that 'the translation give the intent of the original language'.

We can always back up our assertions, brother.

History has shown that you, cannot.

You can only assert your unreferenced opinion.

Here is a classic example of precisely how Allah has been transposed into the Arabic Bible to mean the same exact intent as the original…


لأَنَّه� هكَذَا أَحَبَّ الله� الْعَالَمَ حَتَّى بَذَلَ ابْنَه� الْوَح�يدَ، ل�كَيْ لاَ يَهْل�كَ ك�لّ� مَنْ ي�ؤْم�ن� ب�ه�، بَلْ تَك�ون� لَه� الْحَيَاة� الأَبَد�يَّة�.


John 3.16 For Allah so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Now…

If you know anything about Islam (which is doubtful) and what they believe to be true regarding their god “allah�, then you know that they vehemently deny that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of Allah….and yet this is precisely what is applied to the Allah in the Holy Bible.

This is simply irrefutable evidence that the “allah� of the Koran, that Muslims worship, is NOT the Allah that has been translated in the Holy Bible.

This further demonstrates, that once again, you don’t have a clue as to what you assert.

You make claims, yet the information you give without source does not back that up.

What your translation of John says is irrelevant is the meaning of Allah is Arabic.
That is a non sequitor

[Wyvern]

History has shown that you, cannot.

Here is a classic example of precisely how Allah has been transposed into the Arabic Bible to mean the same exact intent as the original…


لأَنَّه� هكَذَا أَحَبَّ الله� الْعَالَمَ حَتَّى بَذَلَ ابْنَه� الْوَح�يدَ، ل�كَيْ لاَ يَهْل�كَ ك�لّ� مَنْ ي�ؤْم�ن� ب�ه�، بَلْ تَك�ون� لَه� الْحَيَاة� الأَبَد�يَّة�.


John 3.16 For Allah so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Congratulations, you have proven that Allah means the same thing as God.

If you know anything about Islam (which is doubtful) and what they believe to be true regarding their god “allah�, then you know that they vehemently deny that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of Allah….and yet this is precisely what is applied to the Allah in the Holy Bible.

This is simply irrefutable evidence that the “allah� of the Koran, that Muslims worship, is NOT the Allah that has been translated in the Holy Bible.

You should get in a conversation with true religion, you are like the flip side of the same coin as him. He cannot see past his muslim bias and you can't see past you christian bias. The only other real problem with your argument is that you say there is only one god but at the same time state allah is not that god but he is a god all the same.

[Apple Pie]

History has shown that you, cannot.

Here is a classic example of precisely how Allah has been transposed into the Arabic Bible to mean the same exact intent as the original…


لأَنَّه� هكَذَا أَحَبَّ الله� الْعَالَمَ حَتَّى بَذَلَ ابْنَه� الْوَح�يدَ، ل�كَيْ لاَ يَهْل�كَ ك�لّ� مَنْ ي�ؤْم�ن� ب�ه�، بَلْ تَك�ون� لَه� الْحَيَاة� الأَبَد�يَّة�.


John 3.16 For Allah so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Congratulations, you have proven that Allah means the same thing as God.

Define "God".

You should get in a conversation with true religion, you are like the flip side of the same coin as him.

Done.

He cannot see past his muslim bias and you can't see past you christian bias.

Where?

The only other real problem with your argument is that you say there is only one god but at the same time state allah is not that god but he is a god all the same.

Where?

[McCulloch]

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You should get in a conversation with true religion, you are like the flip side of the same coin as him. He cannot see past his muslim bias and you can't see past you christian bias.

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[Wyvern]

History has shown that you, cannot.

Here is a classic example of precisely how Allah has been transposed into the Arabic Bible to mean the same exact intent as the original…

لأَنَّه� هكَذَا أَحَبَّ الله� الْعَالَمَ حَتَّى بَذَلَ ابْنَه� الْوَح�يدَ، ل�كَيْ لاَ يَهْل�كَ ك�لّ� مَنْ ي�ؤْم�ن� ب�ه�، بَلْ تَك�ون� لَه� الْحَيَاة� الأَبَد�يَّة�.

John 3.16 For Allah so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Congratulations, you have proven that Allah means the same thing as God.

Define "God".

That's the fun thing you already have in post 3, and in this post you show that Allah is the arabic term for god, since we know in english language versions of the bible god is the word used in place of allah, which means they are the same term in different languages regardless of the spin you want to put on it.

The only other real problem with your argument is that you say there is only one god but at the same time state allah is not that god but he is a god all the same.

Where?

That would be in post 13, where you state that allah is not allah even though you insist on forcing islam to adhere to christian dogma

[Apple Pie]

History has shown that you, cannot.

Here is a classic example of precisely how Allah has been transposed into the Arabic Bible to mean the same exact intent as the original…

لأَنَّه� هكَذَا أَحَبَّ الله� الْعَالَمَ حَتَّى بَذَلَ ابْنَه� الْوَح�يدَ، ل�كَيْ لاَ يَهْل�كَ ك�لّ� مَنْ ي�ؤْم�ن� ب�ه�، بَلْ تَك�ون� لَه� الْحَيَاة� الأَبَد�يَّة�.

John 3.16 For Allah so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Congratulations, you have proven that Allah means the same thing as God.

Define "God".

That's the fun thing you already have in post 3, and in this post you show that Allah is the arabic term for god, since we know in english language versions of the bible god is the word used in place of allah, which means they are the same term in different languages regardless of the spin you want to put on it.

Define the God of the Holy Bible, brother.

Defining your terminology is the very premise of your argument.

If you can't define your terms, then you have no argument.

The only other real problem with your argument is that you say there is only one god but at the same time state allah is not that god but he is a god all the same.

Where?

That would be in post 13, where you state that allah is not allah even though you insist on forcing islam to adhere to christian dogma

Who's discussing Islam besides you, brother...?

[Jester]

Moderator Comment

He was jealous of God, or anyone else that anyone could potentially worshop over him. He was a clingy crybaby that couldn't humble himself in the light of the truth. Terrorists play out the very nature of Muhammad. A murdering tyrant that absolutely MUST have control over people. That was his motive, or inspiration of the Koran. He needed to lie about Christ in the effort to gain the love of the world.

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