Stricter punishment is the answer to juvenile crime

[jesse]

I belive it is an effective way, yet there's still talk about emotional scars, humilation and so on. Under what conditions and how should it be administrated? Or is it morally wrong altogether?

[Simon_Peter]

Dear Jesse,

You have posed a good question.

Well, it depends on individual circumstances. I do not believe in making people examples. I believe punishment should be a tool of justice, rather than a learning tool. I do not believe that youngsters should be dealt with more severely just because they are young, does an adult who committed the same crime, get the same punishment?

If not, we would be on very discriminatory ground, Some young people lack the insight, to judge right from wrong, and the consequences of their actions. So for that reason, why should deal with them more severely?

Regards,
Simon

[Confused]

I belive it is an effective way, yet there's still talk about emotional scars, humilation and so on. Under what conditions and how should it be administrated? Or is it morally wrong altogether?

Hi Jesse.

You ask a very complex question here that must take into account the age and the offense, but IMO, harsher punishments should be implemented. I am not a big fan of the social sciences and I think we give kids much less credit than they deserve. We coddle them overly and then lay blame at everything except the child. Again, age must play a factor as well as the infraction. But the bottom line seems to favor excusing the child for everything on grounds of the most ignorant excuses. Too much candy, too much stress, too much video games, too much television, etc..... When do we, as a society say ENOUGH!!!! We pity the 10 year old rapist and murder but not the 20 year old who was doing the same thing at 10. Most adult criminals didn't wake up one day after they turned 18 and decide to torture and molest a little girl/boy. Odds are, they have had the tendencies for a long time and may have acted on them in the past in smaller ways. But we don't pity the 18 year old.

This all sparks the nature vs nurture debate which has more blurry lines than the differences between denominations of Christianity. But the more we allow the soft sciences to justify the actions, the worse the actions become.

[WafflesFTW]

Punishment is a tool of fear. And to be honest, people shouldn't worry about juvenile crime when it is the older people screwing the world up with unnecessary wars and power struggles. Stricter punishment would repress juvenile crime, but could make society more restrictive in the process. Additionally, it is important to realize that the jury isn't always right...

[Confused]

Punishment is a tool of fear. And to be honest, people shouldn't worry about juvenile crime when it is the older people screwing the world up with unnecessary wars and power struggles. Stricter punishment would repress juvenile crime, but could make society more restrictive in the process. Additionally, it is important to realize that the jury isn't always right...

Shouldn't worry about juvenile crime? So we should just try to stop the older generation from screwing up the world until the younger generation catches up and screws it up even more? Excellent plan.

[WafflesFTW]

Shouldn't worry about juvenile crime? So we should just try to stop the older generation from screwing up the world until the younger generation catches up and screws it up even more? Excellent plan.

Perhaps you misunderstood me. Leave the system how it is and focus resources on preventing ADULT crime since that is the most prevalent thing. I doubt anyone in Congress shouldn't have a criminal record.

[Simon_Peter]

Hey there,

I believe that anyone who commits a crime should be hung, and drawn, tortured for five years with screw drivers through their feet, then Crucified. Their body should be burnt. There life's achievements wiped from history. The death records burned along with their birth certificates, national security numbers. So no one will ever know they existed or how they died. Or even why they died. There death should be as painful as possible.

I think that will reduce all crime especially juvenile ones

Regards,
Simon

[Confused]

Shouldn't worry about juvenile crime? So we should just try to stop the older generation from screwing up the world until the younger generation catches up and screws it up even more? Excellent plan.

Perhaps you misunderstood me. Leave the system how it is and focus resources on preventing ADULT crime since that is the most prevalent thing. I doubt anyone in Congress shouldn't have a criminal record.

Perhaps I did misunderstand you. But from my view, I see soft sciences justifying every single thing any juvenile does from a perspective of nature or nurture and if you fear the current generation, you should be thankful you won't be alive for the next generations reign if nothing is done to start making changes in how we approach juvenile delinquency. If we don't start holding them accountable and quit making excuses for them, how productive do you think life will become? We blame the parents, science, society, cultures, etc... for everything our children do wrong. We can't yell at them without it being verbal abuse, spank them without it being physical abuse, ground them without it being mental abuse.

Stopping adult crimes is not going to do anything about juvenile crimes because guess what, the juvenile will grow up. Instead of trying to stop or change 30 years worth of behaviors, why not stop it earlier in life, when there is only 9, 10, 14 years worth of patterns of behavior to break?

[Confused]

Hey there,

I believe that anyone who commits a crime should be hung, and drawn, tortured for five years with screw drivers through their feet, then Crucified. Their body should be burnt. There life's achievements wiped from history. The death records burned along with their birth certificates, national security numbers. So no one will ever know they existed or how they died. Or even why they died. There death should be as painful as possible.

I think that will reduce all crime especially juvenile ones

Regards,
Simon

OK, not so sure we need to go to such extremes.

[WafflesFTW]

Perhaps I did misunderstand you. But from my view, I see soft sciences justifying every single thing any juvenile does from a perspective of nature or nurture and if you fear the current generation, you should be thankful you won't be alive for the next generations reign if nothing is done to start making changes in how we approach juvenile delinquency. If we don't start holding them accountable and quit making excuses for them, how productive do you think life will become? We blame the parents, science, society, cultures, etc... for everything our children do wrong. We can't yell at them without it being verbal abuse, spank them without it being physical abuse, ground them without it being mental abuse.

Stopping adult crimes is not going to do anything about juvenile crimes because guess what, the juvenile will grow up. Instead of trying to stop or change 30 years worth of behaviors, why not stop it earlier in life, when there is only 9, 10, 14 years worth of patterns of behavior to break?

Actually, what you are doing, is blaming everything on kids, such as myself. I am not a criminal; MANY kids aren't criminals, but you act as if we are a "problem" in the system while the adults are doing whatever they want and are screwing the world up in the process. Your youth generation was most likely worse than the current one; delinquency rates have been dropping. All you are doing is beating a dead horse.