PRAYER TO BLESSED VIRGIN OF MT. CARMEL IS IT SUPERSTITIOUS?

[PATSY]

I HAVE OFTEN SAID THIS PRAYER WHEN SOMETHING IS REALLY NEEDED OR SOMEONE IS IN DIRE TROUBLE. I WANTED TO PRINT IT ON ANOTHER CHRISTIAN WEBSITE AND THEY WOULDN'T AND SAID IT WAS SUPERSTITIOUS. I WANT AND NEED TO SHARE IT BECAUSE IT CAME THRU AGAIN. DO YOU CONSIDER THIS SUPERSTITION?

I SEE IT AS A PRAYER OF FAITH AND I DO NOT EXPECT TO BE GRANTED ANY NEED IN THREE DAYS. AND GOD DOES NOT ALWAYS GRANT OUR NEEDS THE WAY WE WANT THEM BUT IN THE END WHAT HAPPENS IS FOR OUR GOOD.

THE PRAYER TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN OF MT. CARMEL

OH, MOST BEAUTIFUL FLOWER OF MOUNT CARMEL, FRUITFUL VINE, SPLENDOUR OF HEAVEN, BLESSED MOTHER OF SON OF GOD.

IMMACULATE VIRGIN, ASSIST ME IN MY NECCESSITY.

OH, STAR OF THE SEA, HELP ME, SHOW ME HEREIN YOU ARE MY MOTHER.

OH, HOLY MARY, MOTHER OF GOD, QUEEN OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, I HUMBLY BESEECH YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TO SUCCOUR ME IN THIS NECESSITY. THERE ARE NONE THAT CAN WITHSTAND YOUR POWER.

OH, SHOW ME HEREIN, YOU ARE MY MOTHER.

OH, MARY CONCEIVED WITHOUT ORIGINAL SIN, PRAY FOR US WHO HAVE RECOURSE TO THEE ( SAY THIS THREE TIMES ).

HOLY MOTHER I PLACE THIS CAUSE IN YOUR HANDS ( SAY THIS THREE TIMES ).

HOLY SPIRIT, YOU WHO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS, LIGHT ALL ROADS SO THAT I CAN ATTAIN MY GOAL.

YOU WHO GAVE ME THE DIVINE GIFT TO FORGET AND FORGIVE ALL EVIL AGAINST ME AND THAT IN ALL INSTANCES IN MY LIFE ARE WITH ME.

I WANT IN THIS SHORT PRAYER TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THINGS AS YOU CONFIRM ONCE AGAIN THAT I NEVER WANT TO BE SEPARATED FROM YOU IN ETERNAL GLORY.

THANK YOU FROM ME AND MINE.
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THIS PRAYER IS NEVER KNOWN TO FAIL.
THE PERSON MUST SAY THIS PRAYER FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
AFTER THREE DAYS THE REQUEST WILL BE GRANTED.
THIS PRAYER MUST BE PUBLISHED AFTER THE FAVOUR IS GRANTED.

[JoeyKnothead]

WHAT ARE WE DEBATING, AND WHY ARE WE YELLING?

[PATSY]

I AM NOT YELLING. I HAVE BAD VISION. I FIND I CAN STAY ONLINE LONGER WITH CAPS. MY EYES TIRE QUICKLY.

I AM DEBATING WHETHER ANYONE THINKS THAT DOING THE NOVINA TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN OF MT. CARMEL IS A SUPERSTITION.

ANOTHER SITE REFUSED TO POST MY PRAYER SAYING IT WAS SUPERSTITIOUS.

[ten10ths]

I AM NOT YELLING. I HAVE BAD VISION. I FIND I CAN STAY ONLINE LONGER WITH CAPS. MY EYES TIRE QUICKLY.

I AM DEBATING WHETHER ANYONE THINKS THAT DOING THE NOVINA TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN OF MT. CARMEL IS A SUPERSTITION.

ANOTHER SITE REFUSED TO POST MY PRAYER SAYING IT WAS SUPERSTITIOUS.

IF IT IS SOMETHING DONE TO OR FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S NOT TACTILE I WOULD SAY IT IS SUPERSTITIOUS.
NOT THAT THIS IS A BAD THING - IT'S ONLY A THING.
ALL GOD-LIKE STUFF IS SUPERSTITIOUS TO ME. BUT THAT SHOULDN'T MATTER TO YOU OR ANYONE OTHER THAN ME, RIGHT?

[Overcomer]

I BET THE SITE WAS A PROTESTANT ONE AND NOT A ROMAN CATHOLIC ONE.

WE PROTESTANTS CONSIDER PRAYER TO A DEAD PERSON WITCHCRAFT. MARY IS A DEAD PERSON AS ARE ALL THE SAINTS. YES, THEIR SOULS ARE IN HEAVEN, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING MORE TO DO WITH US ON EARTH.

THE BIBLE STATES THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY MEDIATOR WE NEED TO SPEAK TO GOD. PRAY TO GOD IN THE NAME OF JESUS AND YOU WILL BE FINE. GOD WILL DEFINITELY HEAR YOU.

[PATSY]

[Replying to Overcomer]

THE BLESSED MOTHER DID NOT DIE. SHE WAS ASSUMED UP TO HEAVEN/PARADISE ALIVE. WE CELEBRATED HER ASSUMPTION 0815 JUST LAST MONTH.

[PATSY]

[Replying to post 4 by ten10ths]

IMHO THE WORD"SUPERSTITIOUS" IS A NEGATIVE WORD.

IT IS A MATTER OF FORMALLY ASKING OUR BLESSED VIRGIN TO HELP US. WE MAY NOT GET THE WISH GRANTED IN THE WAY WE WANT.

I DID NOT AGREE WITH THEIR VIEW OF NOT POSTING THIS PRAYER. IT IS A GOOD PRAYER.

[Overcomer]

BUT WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE THAT MARY DID NOT DIE?

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES THAT SHE DIDN'T. BUT THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY THAT.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES THAT WHATEVER IT SAYS IS EQUAL TO WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. BUT WE PROTESTANTS DON'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT THE CHURCH SAYS IS ON THE SAME PAR AS WHAT GOD SAYS IN SCRIPTURE.

TO ME, PRAYING TO DEAD PEOPLE IS LIKE HOLDING A SEANCE OR USING A OUIJA BOARD. IT'S AN OCCULTIC PRACTICE. THE BIBLE TELLS US NOT TO GET INVOLVED IN THE OCCULT.

THE BIBLE SAYS THERE IS ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND HUMANKIND, AND THAT'S JESUS (SEE 1 TIMOTHY 2:5). IT DOESN'T SAY THAT ANYBODY ELSE IS THE MEDIATOR. JESUS IS OUR ONE AND ONLY CONNECTION TO GOD THE FATHER.

IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU PRAYING TO MARY WAS A SUPERSTITION, YOU WERE PROBABLY INTERACTING WITH PROTESTANTS. IF YOU WANT TO BE WITH PEOPLE WHO THINK PRAYING TO MARY IS OKAY, THEN YOU NEED TO TALK TO OTHER CATHOLICS. NOBODY ELSE WILL FIND IT OKAY BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY GOES CONTRARY TO WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.

[PATSY]

I AM NOT A DOUBTING THOMAS.
I BELIEVE IN THE ANNUNCIATION.
I HOPE GOD ACCEPTS ALL RELIGIONS.

WHAT PROOF HAVE ANY OF US?

SOME SAY THE KORAN IS THE BOOK OF GOD.

SOME SAY THE BIBLE.

I THINK NEITHER OF THEM IS "PROOF".

IF YOU HAVE FAITH YOU DON'T NEED PROOF.

I AM SAYING I HAVE NONE. BUT I BELIEVE ANYWAY.

[Divine Insight]

I don't see anything wrong with having superstitious beliefs in ancient folklore as long as those beliefs aren't causing anyone any harm.

Believing in the virgin Mary as a positive faith is certainly not going to get anyone in any trouble with any truly righteous God. Any God who would be upset about that wouldn't be worthy of anyone's worship.

People who think that a God would be upset with anyone who seeks after righteousness must necessarily think that God is a hateful monster.

Jesus taught in the beatitudes: Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

So those who think that Jesus or God would be upset with people who hunger and thirst after righteousness must either think that Jesus was a liar, or a hateful monster.

Neither of those negative attributes are fitting for a demigod.