Would An Intersexual Marriage Be Morally Wrong?
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Would An Intersexual Marriage Be Morally Wrong?
Post #1For those who believe that gay marriage is against God's ways, what about an Intersexual marrying anyone, male or female?
Post #3
Do you mean a Man and a Woman getting married? I think the view of that is pretty clear...
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Post #4
Intersexuals are people born with a variety of conditions wherein they have profound attributes of both sexes rendering them of indeterminate sex. Often such people are subjected to surgical and chemical "correction" as children without their consent. Others may escape imposed "correction", but are in the same boat with all intersexuals of being forced into silence and shame and a closet a hundred times worse than homosexuals.
I think everyone gets to say/determine who and what they are and who they can marry. I am assuming that conservative religionists seeking to deny homosexuals the right to marry, would also do the same to intersexuals who either refuse to identify themselves as male or female and/or fail to meet the conservative religionists standard of what male or female is (which they probably have not even thought about).
I think everyone gets to say/determine who and what they are and who they can marry. I am assuming that conservative religionists seeking to deny homosexuals the right to marry, would also do the same to intersexuals who either refuse to identify themselves as male or female and/or fail to meet the conservative religionists standard of what male or female is (which they probably have not even thought about).
Post #5
Coyotero wrote:Intersexual?
isna.org wrote:Intersex is a general term used for a variety of conditions in which a person is born with a reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesnt seem to fit the typical definitions of female or male. For example, a person might be born appearing to be female on the outside, but having mostly male-typical anatomy on the inside. Or a person may be born with genitals that seem to be in-between the usual male and female types"for example, a girl may be born with a noticeably large clitoris, or lacking a vaginal opening, or a boy may be born with a notably small penis, or with a scrotum that is divided so that it has formed more like labia. Or a person may be born with mosaic genetics, so that some of her cells have XX chromosomes and some of them have XY.
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Post #6
Ah, now I get you.
The apologist response to this that I've heard is that because these "issues" were caused by the fall of man then they are not normal and definitely not intended by god. As such you should follow the sexual practices of your "dominant" sex/gender...if that's even possible to figure out.
The apologist response to this that I've heard is that because these "issues" were caused by the fall of man then they are not normal and definitely not intended by god. As such you should follow the sexual practices of your "dominant" sex/gender...if that's even possible to figure out.
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Post #7
My challenge to conservative religionists is then: Shall they strive to be an abiter of just what an intersexual's identity is...and what their marriage rights are apart from whatever the intersexuals themselves say what their identity is and their rights?
Post #8
All kinds of problematic questions can be presented to the conservative.
With an intersexual, at what point would a conservative religionists decide they are male enough or female enough to be one or the other? Because there are all kinds of intersexual conditions, the combination of factors can be very complex. Most complex is the interior psychological world of the intersexual. Very few scientific studies have produced very little scientific literature on the subject. Helping professionals therefore, for the most part, avoid this population because there simply is no training, no meaningful scientific corpus of literature to base any professional address of these situations pyschologically.
With an intersexual, at what point would a conservative religionists decide they are male enough or female enough to be one or the other? Because there are all kinds of intersexual conditions, the combination of factors can be very complex. Most complex is the interior psychological world of the intersexual. Very few scientific studies have produced very little scientific literature on the subject. Helping professionals therefore, for the most part, avoid this population because there simply is no training, no meaningful scientific corpus of literature to base any professional address of these situations pyschologically.
Post #9
what about hermaphrodiic marriages?
Can I be both a man and a woman who still marries? Can I be extremely androgenous to point even my chromosomes do not conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am one or the other sex?
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gay marriage should be legal because the status quo is actively supporting sexual discrimination. If I have both a penis and a vagina, I should still be able to marry exactly who I want, correct?
but the only way it wll be over turned is when a supreme court justice has an openly gay son/daughter or a mixed-sex child, imo.
Can I be both a man and a woman who still marries? Can I be extremely androgenous to point even my chromosomes do not conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am one or the other sex?
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gay marriage should be legal because the status quo is actively supporting sexual discrimination. If I have both a penis and a vagina, I should still be able to marry exactly who I want, correct?
but the only way it wll be over turned is when a supreme court justice has an openly gay son/daughter or a mixed-sex child, imo.
Post #10
Yes. You're just using the older term. The classical hermaphrodite is a subset of the wider unbrella term intersexual. Although, there are various conditions that result in a hermaphrodite morphology.
It would seem to me that if fundies feel the need to bust their butts to outlaw gay marriage, even more, they have reason to outlaw intersexual marriage. Yet, they do not wish to take up the subject. I wonder why that is.
It would seem to me that if fundies feel the need to bust their butts to outlaw gay marriage, even more, they have reason to outlaw intersexual marriage. Yet, they do not wish to take up the subject. I wonder why that is.
