This question is directed to people who think that abortion is a right of a woman. That she should have a choice.
If you are going to debate in this topic I would like you to debate within the hypothetical world where the woman has a choice of abortion.
So to continue
If a woman has the right to abort then why does the man not? If a woman chooses to have the baby who are we to force the man to pay child support. To people created this child. How come only one person has the right to remove it?
I propose that men should have the right to abort from a pregnancy. When having sex both partners should know that should they conceive the other has the right of removal just as much as them.
Question for debate:
Should men have the right to abortion?
Why/ Why not?
Male abortion?
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Post #31
[quote="Confused]
I do see the inequity you present. But again, I will have to state that not all things in life are equal. To say it is not fair is perfectly appropriate. What would your choice of a solution be? Should the man be able to demand an abortion or have the woman forfeit any claim to child support? [/quote]
I would suggest not paying child support and thus not being able to have any contact or say in the child's life.
There are always things like welfare etc. (Well at least in Australia, dunno about other places) we have single parent, funds and if it was made a males right to avoid paying child support I'm sure that would either be bumped up or a new fund be made.
How is it a perfectly good man can be not allowed to see his child again but still have to pay child support? That's just not fair. There I said it. It's not fair. It's not right. If he has to pay to bring up this child why does not not have any say in it's life? It's because that's what the woman chooses. And if the woman is prepared to push him away like that she should be prepared to face life without his money as well. It would make both parties think twice before sex. It would make her think twice before deciding he is unfit.
Of course this would not count for a court order. If the guy is abusive then it is obvious that he should not see the child until perhaps after a specific period of time or when both the mother and child feel comfortable with it.
Also you guys have begin to cut away at my fervour for this topic. You present good arguements.
I do see the inequity you present. But again, I will have to state that not all things in life are equal. To say it is not fair is perfectly appropriate. What would your choice of a solution be? Should the man be able to demand an abortion or have the woman forfeit any claim to child support? [/quote]
I would suggest not paying child support and thus not being able to have any contact or say in the child's life.
This is true. But the child is going to suffer anyway. I'm sure the emotional suffering of seeing a mum and dad who don't love each other (and potentially a dad who doesn't love his child) would hurt more than living on welfare.Confused wrote: The child should not be the one to pay the price of two peoples idiotic hormones. Women pay child support when they forfeit the custody of their child or when the custody is given to the father. It is in fairness to the CHILD. Not the parents.
There are always things like welfare etc. (Well at least in Australia, dunno about other places) we have single parent, funds and if it was made a males right to avoid paying child support I'm sure that would either be bumped up or a new fund be made.
That's actually what spurned me to make this topic. So many times in life it's not about honour, it's about emotion. And I have seen a few good men get royally screwed by emotion. It's not like we can stop emotion but we can create more laws which safeguard their rights.Zzyzx wrote: If this woman decides to have the baby, and she is honorable, she will give the father a chance to raise the baby.
How is it a perfectly good man can be not allowed to see his child again but still have to pay child support? That's just not fair. There I said it. It's not fair. It's not right. If he has to pay to bring up this child why does not not have any say in it's life? It's because that's what the woman chooses. And if the woman is prepared to push him away like that she should be prepared to face life without his money as well. It would make both parties think twice before sex. It would make her think twice before deciding he is unfit.
Of course this would not count for a court order. If the guy is abusive then it is obvious that he should not see the child until perhaps after a specific period of time or when both the mother and child feel comfortable with it.
Also you guys have begin to cut away at my fervour for this topic. You present good arguements.
