Is it morally wrong to be a snitch?

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Is it morally wrong to be a snitch?

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Elsewhere, Shota wrote:No, I'm not a snitch.
Is it morally correct to place our loyalty to friends, colleagues or family above the principles of justice and the safely of society? What is wrong with exposing evil for what it is and assisting the authorities in the application of our laws? Why do we consider whistle blowers to be a bad thing?
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joeyknuccione wrote:From Page 1 Post 8:
McCulloch wrote: If she gave it to you, then it is yours to do with what you wish. If you have so little regard for her gift that beer is more valuable, then you don't deserve to have a relationship with her.
Too late, I already drank the beer :)

I see your point, but I don't wear jewelry.
And the fact you could get beer had nothing to do with it?

I think that the snitching concept very much falls in the grey zone of morality.

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Nilloc James wrote:
joeyknuccione wrote:From Page 1 Post 8:
McCulloch wrote: If she gave it to you, then it is yours to do with what you wish. If you have so little regard for her gift that beer is more valuable, then you don't deserve to have a relationship with her.
Too late, I already drank the beer :)

I see your point, but I don't wear jewelry.
And the fact you could get beer had nothing to do with it?

I think that the snitching concept very much falls in the grey zone of morality.
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Like a few other people said it depends what the snitch is snitching about.

Personally if it was my friends or family I wouldn't dob them in, unless they did somthing really horrible.

Even if a member of my family killed someone I wouldn't dob them in.

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Ink wrote:Like a few other people said it depends what the snitch is snitching about.

Personally if it was my friends or family I wouldn't dob them in, unless they did somthing really horrible.

Even if a member of my family killed someone I wouldn't dob them in.
Why not? Is it that loyalty is to you a higher ethical value than justice? It seems to me that must be the case. It is more important to you to remain loyal to your friends than it is that serious crime be prosecuted.
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McCulloch wrote:
Ink wrote:Like a few other people said it depends what the snitch is snitching about.

Personally if it was my friends or family I wouldn't dob them in, unless they did somthing really horrible.

Even if a member of my family killed someone I wouldn't dob them in.
Why not? Is it that loyalty is to you a higher ethical value than justice? It seems to me that must be the case. It is more important to you to remain loyal to your friends than it is that serious crime be prosecuted.
Thats the way it is in my family.

They are scarily protective of eachother, hence why I avoid having much to do with my red neck clan.

So I beleive the priority between justice vs defending friends family depends on an individual's values.

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Ink wrote:Like a few other people said it depends what the snitch is snitching about.

Personally if it was my friends or family I wouldn't dob them in, unless they did somthing really horrible.

Even if a member of my family killed someone I wouldn't dob them in.
McCulloch wrote:Why not? Is it that loyalty is to you a higher ethical value than justice? It seems to me that must be the case. It is more important to you to remain loyal to your friends than it is that serious crime be prosecuted.
Nilloc James wrote:That's the way it is in my family.

They are scarily protective of each other, hence why I avoid having much to do with my red neck clan.

So I believe the priority between justice vs defending friends family depends on an individual's values.
So, as an individual, what are your values? It looks to me that your values hinge on staying in good with your friends and family rather than doing what is right.
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I was a snitch growing up. I wasn't in the sense of telling the police (i.e. my father - an investigator) about crimes because I didn't witness any, but in the sense of being a tattletale. I was raised to have a respect for rules and I didn't understand why kids in school broke them. I quickly learned that this was not socially acceptable so over time I changed to be less that way. Now I would not consider myself a snitch. If someone did something I considered to be minor (specifically something that did not hurt anyone including that person) and I found out about it, I probably would not bother "telling" on that person because it's just not that important to me. If it was something I considered major, I should hope that I had the integrity to say something about it.
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Re: Is it morally wrong to be a snitch?

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McCulloch wrote:
Elsewhere, Shota wrote:No, I'm not a snitch.
Is it morally correct to place our loyalty to friends, colleagues or family above the principles of justice and the safely of society? What is wrong with exposing evil for what it is and assisting the authorities in the application of our laws? Why do we consider whistle blowers to be a bad thing?
I would say like others, it depends on the seriousness of the crime. It also depends on who. How you feel about snitching really depends on how you grew up.

If I don't know the person, then I would feel an obligation to snitch. If it's my family though, or a close friend...no. I'm not going to snitch on those close to me. Is this putting my family above the safety of society? yes. I care about society, but I care about my family more. Family's first. For me, nothing comes before that. If my family is in the wrong, then we're work that out between us. But side with authority against my family...never.
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Re: Is it morally wrong to be a snitch?

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JBlack wrote:
McCulloch wrote:
Elsewhere, Shota wrote:No, I'm not a snitch.
Is it morally correct to place our loyalty to friends, colleagues or family above the principles of justice and the safely of society? What is wrong with exposing evil for what it is and assisting the authorities in the application of our laws? Why do we consider whistle blowers to be a bad thing?
I would say like others, it depends on the seriousness of the crime. It also depends on who. How you feel about snitching really depends on how you grew up.

If I don't know the person, then I would feel an obligation to snitch. If it's my family though, or a close friend...no. I'm not going to snitch on those close to me. Is this putting my family above the safety of society? yes. I care about society, but I care about my family more. Family's first. For me, nothing comes before that. If my family is in the wrong, then we're work that out between us. But side with authority against my family...never.
This should not surprise us as we evolved in families for many thousands of years before there was much of anything larger that was unrelated to family.
Our moral reasoning might lead you to sacrifice the family member for the sake of the family, after all imeadeate family comes first over some cousin while mom, dad and their children might be different. Now our brothers and sisters might be close and loved but let's face it they have taken resources from you and the younger ones are just like mom and dad. I can't believe you would suffer a life in jail away from your family for some crazy old uncle.
While you leave the rest of your family living with the embarrassment and loss of two family members, one a pretty good egg and the other a nut case. Poor old J what was he thinking said his mom and dad.

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Cathar1950 wrote:I can't believe you would suffer a life in jail away from your family for some crazy old uncle.
Well, I guess should never say never... I didn't mean that I would take it that far. I'm not going to willing snitch, but you're right, I'm not going to serve anybody else's jail time for them either. It depends on the situation. Say I find out an Uncle of mines went out and did something wrong. I'm not going to call the cops and say "Hey, I know who did it!" If the cops come and question me, I'm going to lie and say "No, I don't know anything." But if for some reason, they decide to arrest me, and my only options are tell on my Uncle or go to jail myself for the crime, well this is where it goes too far. My Uncle doesn't love his nephew much if he would let me go to jail for something he did.
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