How would you react to Adam and Eve?

[OnceConvinced]

Adam and Steve... I mean Eve... were supposedly responsible for the fall of man. Due to their disobedience all of mankind was cast out of the Garden of Eden and suffering was piled upon them. Some even believe that sin corrupted the world and animals that were once herbivores became carnivores. Animals that were once harmless became venomous. Some believe that viruses and disease sprouted up as a result of sin entering creation.

Adam and Eve were the ones responsible for this, so surely everyone should be enraged at them? When you get to Heaven, surely, you will want to kick their asses for being so stupid and sentencing mankind to suffering on Earth?

Or do you see them as innocent beings in a dirty trick played by God? That God set them up to fail? Do you see God as the one responsible for all the suffering, so you don't blame Adam and Eve for what's happened?

Or perhaps you are even delighted that Adam and Eve did what they did, because you got to live a pretty cool life on a pretty cool planet. So you are grateful for their disobedience?

What do you think of Adam and Eve?

How would YOU react to Adam and Eve if you met them in Heaven?

[Davidjayjordan]

Adam and Steve... I mean Eve... were supposedly responsible for the fall of man. Due to their disobedience all of mankind was cast out of the Garden of Eden and suffering was piled upon them. Some even believe that sin corrupted the world and animals that were once herbivores became carnivores. Animals that were once harmless became venomous. Some believe that viruses and disease sprouted up as a result of sin entering creation.

Adam and Eve were the ones responsible for this, so surely everyone should be enraged at them? When you get to Heaven, surely, you will want to kick their asses for being so stupid and sentencing mankind to suffering on Earth?

Or do you see them as innocent beings in a dirty trick played by God? That God set them up to fail? Do you see God as the one responsible for all the suffering, so you don't blame Adam and Eve for what's happened?

Or perhaps you are even delighted that Adam and Eve did what they did, because you got to live a pretty cool life on a pretty cool planet. So you are grateful for their disobedience?

What do you think of Adam and Eve?

How would YOU react to Adam and Eve if you met them in Heaven?

Awesome first couple, we all make mistakes and their sin of believeing the lie of the evil ONE, seems to happen to us all as well. We're all sinners, and they were no exception. Great couple, love them, It will be fantastic to meet them in person, she must be as beautiful as beautiful can get..... and he as manly as a man can get.

He and they passed on the Lord's truth about His coming to get them... the Coming of the Son of Man, Lamb of God, etc etc...

Bless their souls and He did and has and will forever

[OnceConvinced]

Awesome first couple, we all make mistakes

Such a pity that God wasn't as reasonable as you and other Christians are. I think my point is proven. It wasn't really a big deal. God made a mountain out of a mole hill.

and their sin of believeing the lie of the evil ONE,

What? It's a sin to believe something now? So if someone lies to us and we believe it, we're the ones that are sinning??

seems to happen to us all as well. We're all sinners, and they were no exception.

I just hope that when it comes to your kids and they do something wrong you don't suddenly just kick them out of the house like God did!

Great couple, love them,

But they condemned the whole world to suffering. Because of their acts billions of people are going to go to hell!

Bless their souls and He did and has and will forever

You're forgetting about all the curses he lumped on them to begin with and the ramifications of that curse to the rest of us. It's pretty malevolent stuff!

[Davidjayjordan]

The Lord is always fair, and just, and He has been with me and others throughout my lifetime, so I surely wouldn;t be accusing HIM in my opinion and from my experiences.... but do what you want and curse Him if you choose, tell me later how it goes for you or doing such. Does it make you feel better or more righteous....and justified. Just a query, please dont fell compelled to answer

How come you can post your website and I ...... oh.... never mind

[tam]

If they were in 'heaven' (and I am also), they obviously had permission (of Christ and God) to enter. So they are both loved, forgiven, and shown mercy... and whatever they needed to learn, they must have learned. Including repentance and love.



If Christ and God love them, and invite them into their Kingdom, then who am I to do other than that? I love my Lord, and my God, and so I also love those that they love.


Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[ttruscott]

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You're forgetting about all the curses he lumped on them to begin with and the ramifications of that curse to the rest of us. It's pretty malevolent stuff!

You missed the mark again: the serpent was cursed and maybe the wild animals were cursed but Adam and Eve were not cursed...they were punished. And it is a false theology which you don't believe in anyway to think that there were ramifications of his non-curse upon the rest of humanity. The man who sins, that man will die, suffer, be punished etc.

[Davidjayjordan]

If they were in 'heaven' (and I am also), they obviously had permission (of Christ and God) to enter. So they are both loved, forgiven, and shown mercy... and whatever they needed to learn, they must have learned. Including repentance and love.



If Christ and God love them, and invite them into their Kingdom, then who am I to do other than that? I love my Lord, and my God, and so I also love those that they love.


Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Well said..... but the rules say I must add to your words, so I shall concur that they did LEARN their lesson and they did receive mercy because they like us believed in the Messiah also called the Son Of Man. They believed in the Son of Man to come and passed on a prophecy concerning His Coming, just as much as we who have believed in the Son of Man (Jesus) who already came.... they are our brethren...Adam and Eve are Christians and our brethren in love and because of the Lord's Grace and Mercy.

[OnceConvinced]

The Lord is always fair, and just,

the bible tales do not reflect that.

and He has been with me and others throughout my lifetime,

Can you describe one time that God was fair and just with you? And how do you know he was involved at all?

so I surely wouldn;t be accusing HIM

I would never accuse God of anything. I wouldn't dare. I will however make judgement on stories written about him, told by fallible humans.

in my opinion and from my experiences.... but do what you want and curse Him if you choose, tell me later how it goes for you or doing such.

For me to be able to curse him I would first have to meet him. But if I were to meet him and if he really did exist, I wouldn't dare curse him. I would first ask him whether the tales in Genesis were true. If he says yes, I would probably ask him why he handled things that way and I'm sure if he is as fair and just as you say he is, he would be able to get me to see just how fair and just he is, so I would have no reason to curse him.

Does it make you feel better or more righteous....and justified. Just a query, please don't fell compelled to answer

I do not feel better or more righteous. I am simply critiquing tales about Adam and Eve and applying logical and rational thought to them. Instead of accusing me of cursing God, which I am not doing, why don't you have a go at addressing each point I made? Tell me how I am incorrect in my evaluation?

[OnceConvinced]

Hello Ted. I thought you had me on ignore. According to my profile you still do.

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You're forgetting about all the curses he lumped on them to begin with and the ramifications of that curse to the rest of us. It's pretty malevolent stuff!

You missed the mark again:

Nope. Sure didn't. Got a bulls eye.

the serpent was cursed and maybe the wild animals were cursed but Adam and Eve were not cursed...they were punished.

A punishment is a one off. Curses are on going. The punishments dished out by God were ongoing for all human beings, so are the same as a curse. But really what difference does it make? Punishment... curse. As a result, all of humanity have to suffer due to their mistakes. All women have to suffer pain at child birth. We all have to toil through life. We all have to die. We all have to live in a world of sin. ALL Adam, Eve's, Satan's and God's fault. At least if we go by the bible tales.

[OnceConvinced]

If they were in 'heaven' (and I am also), they obviously had permission (of Christ and God) to enter. So they are both loved, forgiven, and shown mercy... and whatever they needed to learn, they must have learned. Including repentance and love.



If Christ and God love them, and invite them into their Kingdom, then who am I to do other than that? I love my Lord, and my God, and so I also love those that they love.


Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Well said..... but the rules say I must add to your words, so I shall concur that they did LEARN their lesson and they did receive mercy because they like us believed in the Messiah also called the Son Of Man. They believed in the Son of Man to come and passed on a prophecy concerning His Coming, just as much as we who have believed in the Son of Man (Jesus) who already came.... they are our brethren...Adam and Eve are Christians and our brethren in love and because of the Lord's Grace and Mercy.

No doubt I could throw my children out onto the street for a trivial offence and they would learn from their mistake. They could make it up to me later, but it wouldn't take away the lack of love and care I showed, throwing them out onto the streets to begin with.

[tam]

If your children (adult children) brought death into your house, thereby endangering your house to everyone else in that house, as well as your great, great, great, etc, grand-children who might return to that house one day, then you might not consider that deed to be so trivial.

You might have to act to ensure that your house NOT be infiltrated and overtaken by death (the darkness), and that your adult child NOT be permitted to have eternal life and free reign in your house so long as he has proven that he will use his life to the detriment of his spouse, children, and fellow man.


If those were the stakes, then you might say... okay then son... if you are not willing to abide by the rules of this house, then out you go into the house that I gave to you (the earth and all that is in it), even though you messed it up for yourself and your children.


And even though you have done this, I won't abandon you, but will continue to provide guidance to you and your children, and I will even provide a way (Christ) back to this house, and to the tree of Life (Christ).


Then you will have truly become like God: knowing good (life) and bad (death), and yet LIVING.


Peace to you!
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy