Homosexuality: A chosen trait, or gentetically aquired?

[The Persnickety Platypus]

This question is a major underlying factor of the general homosexual debate, the answer of which can narrow the scope in questioning its morality.



Are people born gay, or do they choose to be?
Can someone be blamed for their sexual orientation, or is it subject to factors we have no control over?

[AlAyeti]

You mean their genitalia just magically appears in same-sex orifices?

There is conscious act.

Who are you trying to kid?

[The Happy Humanist]

You mean their genitalia just magically appears in same-sex orifices?

There is conscious act.

Who are you trying to kid?

Again, Al, I would really like to know if you doubt that what feels good for you and me to do with women, feels just as good for homosexuals to do with a same-sex partner?

If you do doubt it, then I must ask why you think homosexuals would even exist, especially when a good portion of the country would like to see them run out of town on a rail.

If you don't doubt it, then I must ask how you think homosexuality came about? Where does that "good feeling" come from? What is it's genesis?

[A 3rd Gentleman]

You see it all comes down to ignoring facts and truth.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Citation

This study, while not incontrovertible supporting evidence, gives good challenge to the argument that illogic, confusion or any other conscious ignorance is exclusively causative of all homosexuality.

[Aximili23]

You mean their genitalia just magically appears in same-sex orifices?

There is conscious act.

Who are you trying to kid?

What I'm saying is that they didn't choose to be sexually attracted to members of the same sex. The act of same-sex sex is a choice. But the sexual orientation isn't. Gays and lesbians absolutely do NOT choose to be such, although they can choose to express their love and sexuality to same-sex partners.

[The Persnickety Platypus]

I never chose to be heterosexual. I just was. There might have been some doubts in the beginning, but then you see a hot girl walking down the hall, and all debate comes to an end.

Al, can you remember sitting down and deciding upon your sexual orientation?

On the other hand, culture does come into play. There are a number of people that do choose, as being gay has come to be a "fashion statement" in our society.

But on a base level, I believe homosexuality is genetic. The same-sex tendencies in other species seem to further validify this position.

[AlAyeti]

P-P,

Then homosexuality is a birth defect in your view?

They and psychology say it isn't. Of course it used to be, but with the help of lawyers, it was taken out of the DSM.

If it is a congenital disorder which of course it is, than seeking a cure or offering to help "cure a homosexual" is not bigotry or discrimination but a sensible thing to do. No different than curing studerring.

[AlAyeti]

Happy,

Again, Al, I would really like to know if you doubt that what feels good for you and me to do with women, feels just as good for homosexuals to do with a same-sex partner?

If you do doubt it, then I must ask why you think homosexuals would even exist, especially when a good portion of the country would like to see them run out of town on a rail.

If you don't doubt it, then I must ask how you think homosexuality came about? Where does that "good feeling" come from? What is it's genesis?

I can only assume that latex phalluses have no nerves. Can those things feel?

Neither the throat or the rectum has either a clitoris or penile glans do they?

I will rely on anatomy, physiology and biology to answer your hypothetical question. My mind is healthy. Been that way since birth.

[Bugmaster]

If you don't doubt it, then I must ask how you think homosexuality came about? Where does that "good feeling" come from? What is it's genesis?

I can only assume that latex phalluses have no nerves. Can those things feel?
Neither the throat or the rectum has either a clitoris or penile glans do they?
I will rely on anatomy, physiology and biology to answer your hypothetical question. My mind is healthy. Been that way since birth.

Ok, I am going to press AlAyeti on this one.

AlAyeti, in order to begin making any kind of sense at all, you need to actually answer the question, not dodge it. So:

Do you believe that homosexual sex feels good to gay people -- at least, as good as heterosexual sex feels to straight people ?

Please answer "YES" or "NO", and explain why you think so. This is very important: please reply with a YES or NO answer. No evasions, no random latex diversions. Just a simple, one-word, boolean answer.

[The Happy Humanist]

Happy,

Again, Al, I would really like to know if you doubt that what feels good for you and me to do with women, feels just as good for homosexuals to do with a same-sex partner?

If you do doubt it, then I must ask why you think homosexuals would even exist, especially when a good portion of the country would like to see them run out of town on a rail.

If you don't doubt it, then I must ask how you think homosexuality came about? Where does that "good feeling" come from? What is it's genesis?

I can only assume that latex phalluses have no nerves. Can those things feel?

Neither the throat or the rectum has either a clitoris or penile glans do they?

I will rely on anatomy, physiology and biology to answer your hypothetical question. My mind is healthy. Been that way since birth.

My question was neither hypothetical nor aimed at your mental health. Nor does it particularly involve any specialized knowledge of anatomy. Just a pretty straightforward question. You seem to be answering that you DO doubt that gays enjoy gay sex. Interesting. So why do they engage in it? How did the first humans to engage in homosexual union ever get such a crazy idea? I mean, why not other "aberrations," such as fungiphilia (enjoyment of sex with mushrooms)? (I'm really on a mushroom kick today). Or percussiphilia (sex with a rubber mallet)? Or thermolectrophilia (sex with a toaster)? According to you, they must all equally lack the pizazz of heterosexuality, so they would, statistically, have equal chances of becoming popular. (Yes, I'm aware that there are some strange practices out there, but the list is finite....)

Simple question: Why gay sex? And where'd it come from?

[The Happy Humanist]

Happy,

Again, Al, I would really like to know if you doubt that what feels good for you and me to do with women, feels just as good for homosexuals to do with a same-sex partner?

If you do doubt it, then I must ask why you think homosexuals would even exist, especially when a good portion of the country would like to see them run out of town on a rail.

If you don't doubt it, then I must ask how you think homosexuality came about? Where does that "good feeling" come from? What is it's genesis?

I can only assume that latex phalluses have no nerves. Can those things feel?

Neither the throat or the rectum has either a clitoris or penile glans do they?

I will rely on anatomy, physiology and biology to answer your hypothetical question. My mind is healthy. Been that way since birth.

My question was neither hypothetical nor aimed at your mental health. Nor does it particularly involve any specialized knowledge of anatomy. Just a pretty straightforward question. You seem to be answering that you DO doubt that gays enjoy gay sex. Interesting. So why do they engage in it? How did the first humans to engage in homosexual union ever get such a crazy idea? I mean, why not other "aberrations," such as fungiphilia (enjoyment of sex with mushrooms)? (I'm really on a mushroom kick today). Or percussiphilia (sex with a rubber mallet)? Or thermolectrophilia (sex with a toaster)? According to you, they must all equally lack the pizazz of heterosexuality, so they would, statistically, have equal chances of becoming popular. (Yes, I'm aware that there are some strange practices out there, but the list is finite....)

Simple question: Why gay sex? And where'd it come from?

Addendum: Answer Bugmaster first.