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Your opinion on this matter has been noted. However, this is supposed to be a debate. Just stating your unsupported opinion does not cut it. What authority can you cite?KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:Masturbation is a sin. Even when thinking about your wife. Though I'm glad you have these thoughts for your wife instead of another person.
Would it be a sin to assist my wife to masturbate?
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It would be even a greater sin to help your wife masturbate, as it is two people behaving immorally instead of just one.McCulloch wrote:Your opinion on this matter has been noted. However, this is supposed to be a debate. Just stating your unsupported opinion does not cut it. What authority can you cite?KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:Masturbation is a sin. Even when thinking about your wife. Though I'm glad you have these thoughts for your wife instead of another person.
Would it be a sin to assist my wife to masturbate?
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Thank you for that pontification. Now do you have any support for your positions? What does the Bible say? The Pope? Or did God tell you directly?KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:It would be even a greater sin to help your wife masturbate, as it is two people behaving immorally instead of just one.
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How is Mc's scenario behaving immorally?KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:It would be even a greater sin to help your wife masturbate, as it is two people behaving immorally instead of just one.McCulloch wrote:Your opinion on this matter has been noted. However, this is supposed to be a debate. Just stating your unsupported opinion does not cut it. What authority can you cite?KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:Masturbation is a sin. Even when thinking about your wife. Though I'm glad you have these thoughts for your wife instead of another person.
Would it be a sin to assist my wife to masturbate?
1 Corinthians 6: 18-20
"Avoid immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the immoral persons sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been purchased at a price, Therefore glorify God in your body."
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Sin is more than just 'being naughty' - the Pauline understanding would seem to be that sin must involve exploitation of some kind directed against another person or at the indulgence of society: drunkenness, theft, fornication, slander, paedophilia, &c. Masturbation and autoeroticism - as acts in themselves - involve no such exploitation.
However, I believe that forbidding and punishing them would be very sinful, since that would be stunting and deforming a child's natural sexual growth for the sake of a perverse, wholly Pharisaical notion of 'purity'. As long as masturbation doesn't become an emotional crutch or an addiction, I can't imagine it as being sinful.
However, I believe that forbidding and punishing them would be very sinful, since that would be stunting and deforming a child's natural sexual growth for the sake of a perverse, wholly Pharisaical notion of 'purity'. As long as masturbation doesn't become an emotional crutch or an addiction, I can't imagine it as being sinful.
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Re: Question
Post #17I don't believe in sin, but if you are asking from a biblical perspective I never really understood why masturbating in any way was wrong. From a more general perspective of whether or not it's wrong, I agree with the already posted scientific findings that masturbation is not only a common practice (which I emphatically state does not make something right), but that it is a healthy and natural one. I also do not see a biblical basis for saying that mutual masturbation is unhealthy or sinful. I think the idea that it is sinful is more of a social construction or church tradition about sexual immorality than anything factual.as11018 wrote:Is it a sin to masturbate while thinking about your wife?
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Oh I say, McCulloch.McCulloch wrote:Your opinion on this matter has been noted. However, this is supposed to be a debate. Just stating your unsupported opinion does not cut it. What authority can you cite?KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:Masturbation is a sin. Even when thinking about your wife. Though I'm glad you have these thoughts for your wife instead of another person.
Would it be a sin to assist my wife to masturbate?
Is there any justifiable reason why masturbation would be a sin? Or is this just another one of the ways god stops us from enjoying ourselves?
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Post #19Everything in moderation. As long as it does not become an addiction, what is the harm?as11018 wrote:Is it a sin to masturbate while thinking about your wife?
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Re: Question
Post #20'Pends on if she's ugly or not.as11018 wrote:Is it a sin to masturbate while thinking about your wife?
Wouldn't God dislike it even more if one masturbated with an ugly person in mind?
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