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Replying to post 235 by theStudent]
theStudent wrote:
Why can't a sandcastle form without an intelligence, but a sand dune can form from natural processes?
Ok.. glad you asked.
We actually DO know how sand dunes happen.
The wind, the sand.. how that works to make very regular shapes.
Sure.. it can look even "designed"... because of the regularity...
Nature forms a WHOLE lot of regularities...
But there is nothing about a sand dune or a wave on an ocean or a snowflake or tree leaves or flower shapes or even cloud formations that require any thing else but the laws of physics to explain how they happened.
You want to know about how sand dunes get their regular looking shapes?
Is the wind intelligent ?
Is the sand intelligent ?
Is gravity intelligent ?
That's all it takes to have sand dunes.
Where IS the intelligence?
Now, a sand CASTLE we know takes a human. A designer.. no sand castle will ever come about by wind and sand and gravity alone..
We look at the sand dune, and we say to ourselves "Look at the beauty of that.. I know it was designed because I know someone must have thought it up before building it. And I know it also had to be a human being that did it."
We know that human beings create things and design things and plan for things and have meanings and care and love and hate and are jealous and all of that.
When it thunders.. and we have destructive weather.. we could say something like "Oh my.. SOMEONE is angry up there" , and many people did in the past and many people still do.
But that's a mistake. Scientists can also explain how most of our weather patters happen. Heat, humidity, the earth spinning... the air.. the water... cold.. all of it. And yes, gravity.. I forgot gravity.
But more specifically about sand dunes...
http://www.desertusa.com/geofacts/sanddune.html
There are great pictures there showing you just how they happen, and there is no designer ...
So.. sand dunes happen naturally.. no god required..
The components of sand dunes happen naturally, too. No god required... no "Intelligent Design" required or demonstrated, either.
We can explain how all of that happens.
Does that come close to answering your question?
Maybe you have some more questions.. to dig deeper into this.. ID is very confusing... and the propaganda for it is SO strong..
Just try to stick with the facts, and you won't go wrong... as soon as the facts stop coming, that's a clue that someone is trying to pull the wool over your eyes.