Creation OR Evolution

[Quemtal]

Hi everyone. I stumbled across this site quite by accidence, though I’m terribly glad I did. It’s a lively and open site in which one may expound one’s views, and may hear myriad other opinions.
Reading many of the discussions however, something shocked me: the number of members who seem to believe in evolution/long-age earth and yet call themselves Christians. I’m new to the site, so maybe this issue has been explicitly dealt with elsewhere (if so, please inform me); but if not, it’s one I would like to raise. I’m a Christian, and only a young one at that (eighteen-years-old). The world constantly bombards us with long-age earth points of view, and I must choose whether to believe these or not. I choose to base my thinking upon the infallible Word of God—that God said what He meant to say. If God meant to say He used evolution and millions of years, He would have written Genesis very differently.
Below I’ve given just a few reasons (there are many more) why I believe that to be a Christian on MUST believe in a literal Genesis to be a Christian.
I would just like to hear what others think about this topic. What are your views, beliefs, &c?

Some people say that the Genesis account of Creation is only an allegory or a metaphor. If this is so, a new translation of the Bible is necessary:

‘Then the Lord God formed the metaphor from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the metaphor became a living creature’ Genesis 2.7

‘Through one Metaphor sin entered the world…’ Romans 5.12

‘Enoch, seventh from a Metaphor’ Jude 14

‘The son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli… Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Metaphor, which was the son of God.’ Luke 3.23-28

‘Thus it is written, “The first Metaphor became a living being; the last Metaphor became a life-giving spirit.”’ 1 Corinthians 15.45

Would you consider such a translation to be accurate? I hope your answer is no. So if the Bible doesn’t say this, why do some Christians?
Without a literal belief in Adam, there is no literal belief in Jesus, which is absolutely necessary to be saved. The truths of the Gospel are reliant upon the HISTORY of Genesis 1-11. Without a first Adam, there can be no last Adam! An allegorical or metaphorical reading of Genesis is incompatible with the Gospel. And anyway, how metaphorical could we be? If you don't take 'the first man Adam' literally, how is it you can take 'GOD CREATED the first man Adam' literally?

Millions of years and evolution place death before the Fall. But death cannot have occurred before the fall, otherwise (yet again) the Sacrifice od Christ is negated.

As Christians, we must follow the example of Christ. But Christ was not an evolutionist (I know, it didn't exist then as it does now). Also, he wasn't a long-earther (they did exist then). When Jesus was asked about marriage (Matt. 19.3-6), he quoted Genesis 1.27 and 2.24. Jesus knew that without the history of Genesis, then there was no foundation for His teaching--and without the teachings of Christ, there is no Christianity.

Many read the Bible by reading into it. They put thoughts between the lines, thoughts that are not in God’s Word. And as a result there are evolutionists who call themselves Christians.
So please let’s read the Word for what it says, not what we want or expect it to say. Let’s allow the Bible to shape our view of the world, and not let the world shape our view of the Bible. Let’s keep in mind the words that first deceived Man, the words of Satan in the Garden, ‘Did God really say…?’ If we try to add to God’s Word as did Eve, then we too will fall. Remember Paul’s plea in 2 Corinthians 11.3, ‘But I’m afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.’
Here’s an exercise to try: First, read Proverbs 1.5-6, ‘Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not in your understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him…’ Then, read the Creation account in Genesis, but lay aside all outside thoughts, all your own ideas and notions. Read it, not INTO it.
Thank you for bearing with me so long (if you made it this far). I know it’s a long post, but I thought it necessary, and still there’s so much I’ve left out. I want to hear your thought and opinions on this matter. Thank you.

[ENIGMA]

for your information picking up sticks is not work?

It is in the Bible, heck, thats what the guy got stoned for in the demonstative example.

and if it killed the dinosaurs why didnt it kill us too?

Because the average T-Rex needs to eat a good bit more than we do in order to keep a functioning metabolism.

[fire_of_Jesus]

those people were not acting on Gods part, they thought they were. but that was not gods wish.

[ENIGMA]

those people were not acting on Gods part, they thought they were. but that was not gods wish.

For once, I must concur.

Nonexistant entities do not have wishes.

[fire_of_Jesus]

I'm sorry but what does concur mean?

[ENIGMA]

Concur

I am not your dictionary, please keep that in mind.

[Jose]

This has been an amusing banter, but a series of one-liners isn't very helpful. Fire_of_J, if you would like to provide the evidence that the Chixulub meteor didn't end the Cretaceous, please do. If you would like to provide evidence that the Paluxy footprints are not dinosaur prints (except for the ones that were chiseled by humans to look human), please do. We could stand here throwing assertions at each other all day and never get anywhere. What's your actual argument, and what point are you trying to make?

[fire_of_Jesus]

im trying to tell you there is know way only the dinosaurs got wiped out. why not believe that when the continents drifted apart the dinosaurs died off from food starvation, change of climate, and weather? it is logical anyways. if you think most of the bones where found in dry desert like conditions, its logical they just died from lack of food, heat, and weather.

[jwu]

im trying to tell you there is know way only the dinosaurs got wiped out. why not believe that when the continents drifted apart the dinosaurs died off from food starvation, change of climate, and weather?

Probably that is how most of them indeed died, those that weren't killed in the impact itself - in the months after the impact, as most plants died when the sunlight was blocked from the dust.

it is logical anyways. if you think most of the bones where found in dry desert like conditions, its logical they just died from lack of food, heat, and weather.

They are found just about everywhere.

[Jose]

im trying to tell you there is know way only the dinosaurs got wiped out. why not believe that when the continents drifted apart the dinosaurs died off from food starvation, change of climate, and weather? it is logical anyways. if you think most of the bones where found in dry desert like conditions, its logical they just died from lack of food, heat, and weather.

Well...we know that lots and lots of plants and animals were killed at that time. It wasn't just the dinosaurs. It was a lot of things.

You might also want to go back and review your notes on plate tectonics. The continents didn't just suddenly fly apart, stranding dinosaurs on one side and their food on the other. The continents didn't move then any faster than they are moving now. There were changes in climate, but they were pretty mild--except for the meteor impact, and the cracking of the earth on the other side, resulting in the spewing forth of one heck of a lot of lava.

As it turns out, we do find some dinosaur fossils in deserts, but that doesn't tell us what their part of the world was like when they were alive. You need to remember that many dinosaur fossils have also been found in places that are not deserts. Remember the one that Lewis and Clark described in a bluff along the Missouri River. Remember the ones from New Jersey, too. It's just easier to find 'em where there's less vegetation (you can see 'em better), and where there's less rain (they don't break up as fast).

Sure, it's an interesting question why some things survived the meteor and others didn't. But, it's lucky for us--the dinosaurs kept eating our ancestors, which couldn't take over until the dinos were gone.

[fire_of_Jesus]

yes i see your point but its the most mind busiling question i can think of. its even hard for me to answer this question i'll be getting off soon so i hope u guys wont miss me to much but now on your therie im confused.