The better half of the joke

[Eloi]

... is that evolutionists not only say that some animal species come from previous ones, but they also say that each plant species comes from another previous one (or that they used to say BEFORE)... This, after, according to them, plants stopped living in the water to start living on land... kind of like when fish ceasing to be aquatic to become semi-terrestrial amphibians ... or humans stopped living in caves to start building houses

Did you know this part of the story? It is never ending.

Do you think that the millions of years that the planet has existed are enough for so many SUPERDUPERULTRASLOW transformations that these scientists talk about?

[Clownboat]

Who cares how many species were on the Ark? Do you?

I care, which is why I asked.
I find it comical that believers will lament about evolution while at the same time arguing for a form of super accelerated evolution to explain how we got the diversity of life we see on this planet today.

Evolution is not possible, unless it's super evolution that got us from some animals on the ark to all the species we see today on the planet.

Do you even believe there was a FLOOD?

I believe there have been many floods, but I think you are asking about one specific one that found in religious promotional material. That flood is one that no one should believe in due to a lack of evidence for it.

Scientists have estimated that there are around 8.7 million species of plants and animals in existence, HOWEVER, these same guessers have only even identified around 1.2 million species, most of which are small insects. IF SCIENTISTS KNOW OF ONLY 1,2 MILLION SPECIES, WHY WHOULD THOSE THAT DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD, CREATION, NOAH, OR THE FLOOD ATTEMPT TO PRESSURE CREATIONISTS TO FIT 8.7 MILLION ON THE ARK IN EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE THE BIBLE SEEM REDICULOUS? IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ARROGANT AND HAVE NO PROBLEM TWISTING THE FACTS IN EVERY EFFORT TO SWAY THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT DOESN'T KNOW ANY BETTER!

When the debate is lost, slander become the tool of the loser. - Socrates
I see you are not happy to find out just how many species we have estimated to be on this planet. I wonder if you are this mad because you now realize that you are a super evolutionist! Or do you have an explanation for all the species we see not just now, but also in the fossil record?

And many of the species are water animals, and GOD only told Noah to be concerned with land animals and not those that were aquatic.

It appears that we have a super evolutionist that doesn't understand the difference between saltwater and freshwater. Did all the saltwater fish super evolve overnight to be able to survive in brackish water and vice a versa? Same with the plants and corals, or should I just stop using my brain and believe because you or a book says so?

[LittleNipper]

Who cares how many species were on the Ark? Do you?

I care, which is why I asked.
I find it comical that believers will lament about evolution while at the same time arguing for a form of super accelerated evolution to explain how we got the diversity of life we see on this planet today.

Evolution is not possible, unless it's super evolution that got us from some animals on the ark to all the species we see today on the planet.

Do you even believe there was a FLOOD?

I believe there have been many floods, but I think you are asking about one specific one that found in religious promotional material. That flood is one that no one should believe in due to a lack of evidence for it.

Scientists have estimated that there are around 8.7 million species of plants and animals in existence, HOWEVER, these same guessers have only even identified around 1.2 million species, most of which are small insects. IF SCIENTISTS KNOW OF ONLY 1,2 MILLION SPECIES, WHY WHOULD THOSE THAT DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD, CREATION, NOAH, OR THE FLOOD ATTEMPT TO PRESSURE CREATIONISTS TO FIT 8.7 MILLION ON THE ARK IN EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE THE BIBLE SEEM REDICULOUS? IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ARROGANT AND HAVE NO PROBLEM TWISTING THE FACTS IN EVERY EFFORT TO SWAY THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT DOESN'T KNOW ANY BETTER!

When the debate is lost, slander become the tool of the loser. - Socrates
I see you are not happy to find out just how many species we have estimated to be on this planet. I wonder if you are this mad because you now realize that you are a super evolutionist! Or do you have an explanation for all the species we see not just now, but also in the fossil record?

And many of the species are water animals, and GOD only told Noah to be concerned with land animals and not those that were aquatic.

It appears that we have a super evolutionist that doesn't understand the difference between saltwater and freshwater. Did all the saltwater fish super evolve overnight to be able to survive in brackish water and vice a versa? Same with the plants and corals, or should I just stop using my brain and believe because you or a book says so?

Slander does indeed seem to be the way evolutionists deal with Creation scientists. They become very nasty. They love to use the word "we" as though there is safety in numbers and everyone is on their side. If you care to do some research on your own you will find that there are even now areas where fresh and salt water do not mix. And with all the fresh rain, it would seem that the saltwater animals would have a more difficult problem; however, we do not know how salty the ocean was 5000 years ago, and it has likely grown more salty over time and some animals became acclimated to the salt content as it changed.

[brunumb]

And with all the fresh rain, it would seem that the saltwater animals would have a more difficult problem; however, we do not know how salty the ocean was 5000 years ago, and it has likely grown more salty over time and some animals became acclimated to the salt content as it changed.

With over 70% of Earth's surface being ocean containing an enormous amount of water, where do you propose all the extra salt came from? There is about 50 quintillion kilograms of salt content in our oceans. For visual purposes, 50 quintillion looks like this: 50,000,000,000,000,000,000. That's a lot of salt! Also, all that water from the rain and fountains of the deep causing the entire planet to be covered, one would expect uniform salinity everywhere. Where did all the flood water go after the great deluge? Instead of the usual 'maybes', please provide some evidence or calculations to support your claims. God-magic is also not acceptable, unless you can demonstrate that it actually occurred that way.

[LittleNipper]

And with all the fresh rain, it would seem that the saltwater animals would have a more difficult problem; however, we do not know how salty the ocean was 5000 years ago, and it has likely grown more salty over time and some animals became acclimated to the salt content as it changed.

With over 70% of Earth's surface being ocean containing an enormous amount of water, where do you propose all the extra salt came from? There is about 50 quintillion kilograms of salt content in our oceans. For visual purposes, 50 quintillion looks like this: 50,000,000,000,000,000,000. That's a lot of salt! Also, all that water from the rain and fountains of the deep causing the entire planet to be covered, one would expect uniform salinity everywhere. Where did all the flood water go after the great deluge? Instead of the usual 'maybes', please provide some evidence or calculations to support your claims. God-magic is also not acceptable, unless you can demonstrate that it actually occurred that way.

The beginning of the process of the waters of the ocean turning as salty began with the FLOOD and all the minerals that were churned up and mixed with the water. Just like the Dead Sea is presently so salty that animals cannot live in it and people float on it, so too the oceans of the world became like they are as all the FLOOD waters ran off the land; however, presently the oceans appear to be in a place of equilibrium and addition and subtraction of ions is in balance. I don't understand why you would expect uniform salinity everywhere, concentration anything isn't expected to be the same everywhere...

[brunumb]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #64]

The land surface would had to have been made of salt mountains for the run off to turn fresh water oceans into what we have today. Also, can you explain how water could run off the land into the oceans when the entire planet was under water as described in the biblical account?

[The Nice Centurion]

[Replying to brunumb in post #65]
Now, that one is the easiest one! If one teads ones bible correct one knows that the world is flat!

The water somply watered down into space from the sides and edges of flat earth!

To emulate the great Doctor Kent Hovind:
What else do you want to know?

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #64]

The land surface would had to have been made of salt mountains for the run off to turn fresh water oceans into what we have today. Also, can you explain how water could run off the land into the oceans when the entire planet was under water as described in the biblical account?

No it wouldn't. The Dead Sea became salty simply from the runoff into the Jordon River, the fact that there was no outlet, and the fact of the destruction of the cities of the plain by brimstone. All this contributed an ever increasing salt content.

[brunumb]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #64]

The land surface would had to have been made of salt mountains for the run off to turn fresh water oceans into what we have today. Also, can you explain how water could run off the land into the oceans when the entire planet was under water as described in the biblical account?

No it wouldn't. The Dead Sea became salty simply from the runoff into the Jordon River, the fact that there was no outlet, and the fact of the destruction of the cities of the plain by brimstone. All this contributed an ever increasing salt content.

What about the rest of the planet?

Also, can you explain how water could run off the land into the oceans when the entire planet was under water as described in the biblical account?

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #64]

The land surface would had to have been made of salt mountains for the run off to turn fresh water oceans into what we have today. Also, can you explain how water could run off the land into the oceans when the entire planet was under water as described in the biblical account?

No it wouldn't. The Dead Sea became salty simply from the runoff into the Jordon River, the fact that there was no outlet, and the fact of the destruction of the cities of the plain by brimstone. All this contributed an ever increasing salt content.

What about the rest of the planet?

Also, can you explain how water could run off the land into the oceans when the entire planet was under water as described in the biblical account?

The water mixed with the sand, soil and minerals as it washed out ravines and canyon throughout the planet. Salt is not a rare substance.

[brunumb]

The water mixed with the sand, soil and minerals as it washed out ravines and canyon throughout the planet. Salt is not a rare substance.

It's really not that simple, but how about the bigger question.

Can you explain how water could run off the land into the oceans when the entire planet was under water as described in the biblical account?