William wrote:
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Replying to post 37]
Clownboat: I don't have this fear. Please describe your fear that you are projecting on to me so I may better understand your fear.
William: I don't care what it is that makes you express yourself as you do.
It was a simple human declaration, much as was your statement;
- That was a lot of words to avoid saying:
"I'm not aware of a mechanism for planets to become alive"
Clownboat: Fear is in the mind and you cannot make me feel fear, only I can do that (IMO)
William: I agree. Your opinion is as everyone else's. A 'human declaration.'
Clownboat: I only care to compare claimed mechanisms. You cannot provide one to compare to another.
William: I did provide one. I don't care that you missed it, or that fear might not be the cause of you missing it.
- Whatever human declarations mean to you or I, or the ripple effects that might come from these, - big or little - is for each of us to determine based upon our own experience and consequent choice of reaction.
Clownboat: My question was simple and it was about a mechanism to make planets alive.
William: I was responding to your statements. I was not aware they were 'questions'.
As explained by the links and the OP subject matter, and in my reply to Diagoras
Definitions go a long way in deciding how to best proceed with ones choices. Some lean toward what priests tell them, others to what scientist tell them. I tend toward leaning to what my own experience tells me.
- In that, I see no reason why the planet itself cannot be the form of a conscious living entity, although I understand perfectly that many have trouble with such a concept, and even get upset about the possibility.
Your own definition of living is likely different from my own. Therein, there is little to discuss.
This is not a mechanism:
Cut/Pasted - "Whatever human declarations mean to you or I, or the ripple effects that might come from these, - big or little - is for each of us to determine based upon our own experience and consequent choice of reaction."
mech·an·ism
/ˈmekəˌnizəm/
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noun
1.
a system of parts working together in a machine; a piece of machinery.
2.
a natural or established process by which something takes place or is brought about.
I asked if you could provide such a mechanism.
Clearly the answer to this question is "no". I didn't expect that you could, but if you could, I would have liked to understand it.
All this wasted time just to avoid the honest answer.
It's ok that you cannot provide a mechanism. For all we know, the planet is alive and we just don't know how that happened.
Keeping your emotions out of the discussion helps and not being able to provide a mechanism does not prove something to be false. Obviously providing a possible mechanism helps to bolster a claim/thought though.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
