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Even Fox News is abandoning ship.

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“Donald Trump’s vitriolic attacks against Megyn Kelly and his extreme, sick obsession with her is beneath the dignity of a presidential candidate who wants to occupy the highest office in the land. Megyn is an exemplary journalist and one of the leading anchors in America — we’re extremely proud of her phenomenal work and continue to fully support her throughout every day of Trump’s endless barrage of crude and sexist verbal assaults. As the mother of three young children, with a successful law career and the second highest rated show in cable news, it’s especially deplorable for her to be repeatedly abused just for doing her job.�
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And Obama has been caught on a live mic saying disparaging things about one of my heroes, Benjamin Netanyahu.
Why is he one of your heroes, EJ?
Benjamin Netanyahu has moral clarity. He knows that Israel defends herself, and targets terrorists and enemy militants, not civilians. The terrorists, by contrast, target Israeli civilians.

Netanyahu is a staunch supporter of the US as well. A better ally to us, then Obama has been to Israel.

BN is not PC...he is no-nonsense. He's not afraid to call out Palestinians for teaching hatred in their schools, and making their murderers into marytrs to be celebrated.

BN wants peace, but will not tolerate putting his people at risk.

Obama, by contrast, has demonstrated on more than a few occasions that he considers international concerns more important than the safety and security of the American people.

It is no wonder that Obama does not seem to respect a strong leader like Netanyahu. He stands for things that Obama does not.

And to tie it back to the OP, Hillary Clinton would almost certainly be more of the same Obama apologetic policies.
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Elijah John wrote: -Hillary wants to increase the importation of Syrian refugees by 500% over even Obama, Trump does not.
I vote for Hillary on this one. Being a nation that offers open arms to refugees is a large part of what American stands for. Have you ever read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty?

Refugees are not terrorists. In fact, to cower down in fear that taking in refugees might open a door for a few terrorist to also enter is to cower down to precisely the kind of fear that the terrorist are hoping to instill in Americans.

Trump represent the ultimate FEAR of terrorism. He's playing right into their hands, allowing terrorism to DRIVE his polices based on his FEAR of terrorists.

So Hillary wins big time on this one for her Courage to stand up for American values and not to cower down in fear like Donald Trump.
Elijah John wrote: -Hillary advocates abortion on demand, Trump does not.
Hillary protects the RIGHTS of citizens to make their own choices on matters of this importance. Trump strips people of their right to choose and instead favors supporting right-wing religious dogma.

So once again my vote goes for Hillary, the more intelligent candidate.
Elijah John wrote: -Hillary will appoint extremist Left-wing Supreme Court Justices, Trump wants to appoint more like the late-great Antonin Scalia.
Trump is the one who would put in Right-wing extremists for Supreme Court Justices. I definitely favor Hillary for picking Supreme Court Justices. With Trump we could end up with a Supreme Court full of religious fanatics who are hoping to instill their theocracy based on their religious beliefs.

So once again I favor Hillary and the separation of Church and State.
Elijah John wrote: --Hillary feeds into the false narrative of BLM, and jinns up racism for political purposes. Trump gives the benefit of the doubt to law enforcement, while still opposing racial injustice.
BLM is not a false narrative. We have problems in our police departments that need to be addressed. Hillary recognizes this and has very intelligent plans for working with both the polices and the communities to find a common solution.

Trump's answer to this problem is like that of a typical barroom drunkard. He just denies that the problem exists and supports the police departments. He may claim that he opposes racial injustice, but if he doesn't actually DO something about it that's a pretty useless position to take.

Hillary is willing to address the actual problem.

So again my vote goes for Hillary over Trump's failure to even acknowledge that there is a problem here.

Elijah John wrote: -Hillary seems more concerned about the world's opinion of the US, Trump would put America's interests first.
Hillary realizes the reality that today's world has become globally dependent in ways that cannot be ignored. And she understands how to work within this complex reality.

Trump is in total deny of the global reality of human civilizations. He thinks he can just use the American presidency to "bully" the rest of the world into submission in favor of putting America's interests first. That's never going to work. Again, he is exhibiting the mentality of a barroom drunkard who doesn't even understand the complexity of today's reality.

Hillary is the only intelligent choice on the ballot. There is no other intelligence choice.
Elijah John wrote: -Hillary is a polarizer, a divider...who screams "racism" and "sexism" at the drop of a hat. Trump called Hillary "racist" only briefly, and only to make a rhetorical point. One gets the feeling that behavior and those false accusations are more deeply ingrained into Hillary's reflexive and reactionary psyche. She still seems to be living in the Sixties.
Oh please.

Trump is the one who has been causing division and inciting racism, sexism, and all manner of bigotries. Trump is the one who wants to blame all the problems of American on everyone who isn't a White Christian. He wants to deport the Mexicans and Latinos. He also dismisses American Judges who have Mexican heritage. He wants to ban Muslims from entering the USA. He's wants to instill public frisking and search procedures by the polices base on racial profiling. He even wants to install surveillance in mosques because he doesn't trust American Muslims. He's all for racial and religious profiling.

He's as bigoted as you can get.

Hillary doesn't support any of that nonsense. She fully understands that we can't start condoning racial and religious profiling. Those things were done away with in the name of civil rights years ago, and now Trump was to take us back to the dark ages of racial and religious bigotry.

Trump is the bigot here, not Clinton.

Elijah John wrote: -Hillary is oh so PC, Trump is not.

And rightfully so. Being "Politically Correct" simply means to honor the law and treat people with respect. Trump wants to totally disregard the law, toss out the U.S. constitution and show blatant disrespect for people by profiling them with search and seizure operations without any protection of the U.S. Constitution.

Trump is so "non-PC" that he wasn't to toss out the U.S. Constitution in favor of racial and religious profiling without any protection for the citizens.

Is that the world you want to live in? :-k

Again, Hillary gets my vote on every issue you've bought up thus far. [/quote]
Elijah John wrote: Also, DI, Trump too wants to police the internet to prevent ISIS etc recruitment. On that at least, the two candidates seem to agree. .
No they don't agree at all.

Trump wants to POLICE the internet like as if he can somehow STOP freedom of communication on the Internet. That's never going to happen. It's not even realistic.

Hillary wants to WORK through social media on the Internet to educate the masses of the dangers and fallacies associated with radical terrorists groups. Sure she would also work to shut down any known terrorist websites, etc. But you can't police all social media and that is what terrorist groups are using. So you need to counteract these tactics by using social media to educate people and get the word out concerning why these terrorist groups do not represent the religious ideologies they claim to represent.

Hillary has an actual PLAN for doing this with silicon valley and people who are well-educated in Internet technologies.

Trump has already exposed his "plan" of just shutting down these things. That's not a realistic solution. So once again we see Trump offering the solutions of an uneducated barroom drunkard, whilst Hillary actually has intelligent solutions to offer.

Hillary trumps Trump on every issue without fail.

Hillary has intelligent policies to offer for every problem we face in America.

Trump has nothing but pure ignorance to offer. If he actually did everything he wants to do he would destroy the USA in record time.

I have even touched on Trump's failed polices for the economy. I believe I had already addressed those in a previous post in this thread. Hillary wants to rebuild America's infrastructure. That's going to create jobs right there. Trump's plan is to trash the EPA and the environment in the hopes of seeing coal mines reopen and putting coal miners back to work. That's never going to work.

Trump has absolutely NO SOLUTIONS for anything. Every proposal he has made as being totally unintelligent and lacking any realistic credibility. His so-called "solutions" would actually make things far worse.
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Debate on tonight , people...

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At least Zionists will be happy.
They get support from both, Hillary and Trump.

I read that Trump promised to make Jerualem a capital of America...oops, Israel;)

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Monta wrote: [Replying to post 41 by Blastcat]

At least Zionists will be happy.
They get support from both, Hillary and Trump.

I read that Trump promised to make Jerualem a capital of America...oops, Israel;)

Trump says a lot of things that people don't take too seriously.

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Blastcat wrote: Trump says a lot of things that people don't take too seriously.
Like "Obamacare kills jobs."

U.S. Unemployment Rate:

Sep 2010 - 9.5%
Sep 2011 - 9.0%
Sep 2012 - 7.8%
Sep 2013 - 7.3%
Sep 2014 - 6.0%
Sep 2015 - 5.1%
Sep 2016 - 5.0%
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Like "Obamacare kills jobs."

U.S. Unemployment Rate:

Sep 2010 - 9.5%
Sep 2011 - 9.0%
Sep 2012 - 7.8%
Sep 2013 - 7.3%
Sep 2014 - 6.0%
Sep 2015 - 5.1%
Sep 2016 - 5.0%//

I find that all politicians lie.
All western leaders supported war in Iraq because Saadam had wmd.
A lie of a President has a lot more weight than a lie of a maybe President.

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Tired of the Nonsense wrote: Even Fox News is abandoning ship.

Fox News
“Donald Trump’s vitriolic attacks against Megyn Kelly and his extreme, sick obsession with her is beneath the dignity of a presidential candidate who wants to occupy the highest office in the land.
One of Trump's biggest advantages is that he doesn't care to be 'politically correct' since he is not a career politician. People are tired of politicians.
What you've implied here is that being 'politically correct' is something very differenent from obeying the law or treating people with common decency and respect.

What Trump has done is far more and far worse than simply stepping on a few toes by being insensitive to concerns of others who may be overly protective of their feelings. What Donald Trump has done is brag and joke about, and confess to committing acts that constitute sexual assault.

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Danmark wrote: What Donald Trump has done is brag and joke about, and confess to committing acts that constitute sexual assault.
Kellyanne Conway, Trump's campaign manager, is now the girlfriend who drives the van while her boyfriend kidnaps and molests hitchhikers
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Talishi wrote:
Blastcat wrote: Trump says a lot of things that people don't take too seriously.
Like "Obamacare kills jobs."

U.S. Unemployment Rate:

Sep 2010 - 9.5%
Sep 2011 - 9.0%
Sep 2012 - 7.8%
Sep 2013 - 7.3%
Sep 2014 - 6.0%
Sep 2015 - 5.1%
Sep 2016 - 5.0%
Sigh...it's hard to know where to begin with this type of simplistic analysis.

First, part of the reason why the unemployment rate has dropped since 2010 is due to the fact that the labor force participation rate has also dropped (from 64.6% in Sep 2010 to 62.9% in Sep 2016). Projections indicate that the labor force participation rate will continue to drop over the upcoming years. Do you know what that means? It means that the unemployment rate is dropping partly due to the fact that people are dropping out of the labor force.

Second, the claim isn't "Obamacare is killing jobs." That is an uninformed mis-characterization. The claim is that Obamacare is killing full time jobs (by reducing the number of hours worked) which is a well documented fact that everyone (who understands this issue) is aware of.

Third, this type of simple, uncritical analysis doesn't cut it in statistical research. Consider the following:

Professor: Students, has Obamacare killed jobs?

Student A: NO! If you look at the data it shows that unemployment has fallen over the past 6 years, so NO, Obamacare isn't killing any jobs.

Professor: Ok... but you need to dig a little deeper and think a little harder. Could it be that total job growth has simply exceeded the rate at which jobs are being lost due to Obamacare? Could it be that Obamacare is killing full employment employment, thereby leading an increase in part time employment. Rather than firms hiring a few full time employees, they may just be hiring many part time workers instead which is why we see an increase in net employment. So as you can see, there are many different factors that you need to consider.

Student A: Obama good tho.....

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