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Post #31
I don't care why it was banned. If it is banned then it can be kept banned. I do not believe keeping it banned will have any harmful outcomes.Yes, and I am saying that it was banned for illegitimate reasons in the first place.
Post #32
The harm is in the denial of rights. Like I said before, our society of laws is predicated on the law of neagtives -- or everything that is not banned is allowed. So there has to be legitimate support for such a ban at all times, and there need not be any allowable good in order to lift the ban. Because the original ban was done for illegitimate reasons, those who seek to continue the ban have to come up with better reasons for it. The fact is that this has not happened, and in fact the opposite is true. The more it is researched the more it becomes clear that it is not the "hard core" drug that the government claims it to be. There are more harmful, legally prescribable drugs currently existing -- like hydrocodone -- that are sanctioned by the government only because they are patentable. Marijuana does nothing for the drug companies because it is readily cultivated by ordinary people. By saying this, I'm not saying there is some giant conspiracy about this, I'm saying that there is no viable political pressure to legalize it because there is no industry group that is behind it. This does not make it a bad drug. It makes it a legacy mistake.TQWcS wrote:I don't care why it was banned. If it is banned then it can be kept banned. I do not believe keeping it banned will have any harmful outcomes.Yes, and I am saying that it was banned for illegitimate reasons in the first place.
Post #35
No, it had nothing to do with his carelessness. I am sure you can say, If he would have harnessed himself on to something so he wouldn't be able to fall it wouldn't have happened. The point is it isn't probable that it would have happened if he hadn't been high. I was there you were not so don't tell me what caused the accident to happen.If your roommate had tripped over his untied shoelaces, would you advocate banning laces? It was carelessness on his part that lead to his accident, not simply the drug he was taking.
Post #36
If everyone used velcro or wore flip flops, the probablity of tripping of shoelaces is significantly reduced as well.TWQcS wrote:The point is it isn't probable that it would have happened if he hadn't been high
If your friend had avoided windows or been on the ground floor, he wouldn't have fallen to his injury.
I may not know the specifics, but it wasn't like the joint pushed him out of the window. You are blaming the drug for the actions of the individual, but it was the choice of the individual to do the actions that resulted in his or her injury. It's not the joint's fault your room mate did not remove himself from a hazardous situation before lighting up. Being high or drunk is not a good excuse for doing something stupid.TQWcS wrote:I was there you were not so don't tell me what caused the accident to happen.
Post #37
The act of getting high or drunk is something stupid.Being high or drunk is not a good excuse for doing something stupid.
If people were responsible enough not to use drugs then the drugs wouldn't lead to bad things. Tieing your shoes is the equivalent to choosing not to do weed.If everyone used velcro or wore flip flops, the probablity of tripping of shoelaces is significantly reduced as well.
If your friend had avoided windows or been on the ground floor, he wouldn't have fallen to his injury.
It was not like he was leaning against the glass. He lost his balance(which was due to the drug) and fell through the window. I agree it was his stupidity that cuased the act only because it was stupid to do the drug in the first place.
Post #38
If people were responsible enough to remove themselves from possibly dangerous situations before partaking in drugs, drugs wouldn't lead to bad things.TQWcS wrote:If people were responsible enough not to use drugs then the drugs wouldn't lead to bad things.
If you agree that it was his stupidity, then stop blaming the drug for his actions.TQWcS wrote: I agree it was his stupidity that cuased the act
He should have known the effects of the drug before he put it into his body. People lose balance all the time without being under the effects of anything. This statement does nothing to support your claim that weed should remain illegal.TQWcS wrote:He lost his balance(which was due to the drug)
Post #39
To me your whole arguement is based on this: if you are logical then the drugs are of no harm. The problem is that if you are logical you would not take the drugs in the first place. Therefore anyone who uses drugs is not logical.
Post #40
I am sorry your roomate was injured. If the story is true as you describe it -- which I have no doubt that it is -- then it is most certainly the result of getting high. However, because marijuana is not the only substance that gives someone this effect, I can't say that it was the fault of the marijuana. By blaming the marijuana for this accident, you are absolving your roommate of blame and/or responsibility. Part of the problem with drugs like this being illegal is that there are no formal warnings about what it can do to the body. If someone wants to know what it does, the most effective way to find out is to do it yourself, which is a scary and stupid way to live your life. Now, I'm not saying that if there was a warning label on a ziploc bag of MJ saying "May Impair Judgment" that there won't be people who will stand next to an open window while lighting up. What I'm saying is that people have to be responsible for what happens to them. It just makes sense that you should know what you're doing to yourself when you take this stuff in. If it's illegal, it's likely you will never find out until it's too late and the ER doctor has to tell you (or your next of kin) what you've been doing to yourself. I see this incident as a reason this drug should be legalized: because of the regulatory actions that will result from it.TQWcS wrote:My roommate was high this weekend and fell through a window and almost died. I guess it isn't the harmless drug you make it out to be...
